basher Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 here is a little 2lb dumpy cross pein .It is winging its xmas way to a young farrier.I have been seeing a lot of short hammers used by all you Americans recently and thought I would give them a try.The short face allows you to use the sides and cornerd as minni fullers whilst keeping the centre of mass behind the blow.They work really well for decorative forging.Yes Yes I will probably be forging a Turning hammer soon too!! I pulled an old one off of the rack one square end (rounded) and one round.... Been sitting there since college.....Ah thats what all the fuss is about!!!They work really well for decorative forging. I am still gonna use the dogs head hammers for blades though. I am not the kind of guy to be Hammernogamous its cute!! Quote
DClaville Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 that is a very nice looking hammer! what steel do you use for hammers Owen EN9? Quote
bigfootnampa Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 That looks a lot like my favorite forging hammer! Looks like a great hammer to me! Quote
yesteryearforge Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Looks Great Ive always preferred a Cross Pein Quote
ThomasPowers Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 "Hammernogamous" truly a great term that should be enshrined in blacksmithing jargon! Thomas Powers who coined the phrase "Anvil Envy" over at anvilfire years ago Quote
Rich Hale Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 As a used to was farrier i have turned a lot of hand made shoes and reshaped a lot more store bought ones. I pulled clips on a lot of those and this hammer would be wonderful for starting the clip with the cross pien end and drawing the clip with the other end. Nice! Quote
beth Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 its really cute!! i think i AM hammeronogamous... does that mean i will use anything??? indescriminately...??? :o Quote
iron woodrow Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 no that is polyhammery i think Beth...... Quote
basher Posted December 19, 2012 Author Posted December 19, 2012 If you were saying that in the 60's i would have to call you a hammer-swinger..... Quote
HWooldridge Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Mayhaps it should be called a "ha'penny snub" design..."dumpy" just sounds so colonial. <LOL> Quote
beth Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 :) good job its only my hammer i swing :D Quote
ThomasPowers Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 then it would be techno! He Mod---Might as well remove this post that was referring to the multiposts you removed. Quote
MOblacksmith0530 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Hmmm I need to reread the posts here it almost sounds as if us colonials might have gotten a nod or something..... :D Seriously for a lot of forging the shorter stouter hammers can definitely have some advantages when using the edges. Some even have the faces narrowed slightly from the eye/body area to enhance this effect. I will try and remember to get a couple of pics of some rounding hammers I have made in the last couple years that I am starting to favor for this reason. Quote
basher Posted December 21, 2012 Author Posted December 21, 2012 A nod to the colonials...A Deep courteous bow more like. I am an English trained Blacksmith but whilst my roots may be British stock from then on upward I owe the majority of my learning and inspiration to colonials , both bladesmiths and Blacksmiths in person and more recently on the web. I often Joke that I have learned the secrets of the saxon smiths from American ones.... Its a funny old world. If you are willing to be a sponge and allow your self to not get too attached to your "own" taught or hard learned way of doing things. the world is your oyster. I get great satisfaction from still learning after 19 years at it long may it last. Quote
Richard Furrer Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 Owen I have only known you for, what, five-six years? What I see is his own man...not too beholding to anyone.I have seen many tens if not hundreds of folk shown the same information you have gone after and done nothing with it....such is not the case with you.You can feel content that you have good friends, but I would wager when you turn around in your shop...there is nobody there. Your work is all your own. Ric Quote
Francis Trez Cole Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 sweet looking hammer. what type of metal did you use? Quote
MOblacksmith0530 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Here is a pic of a couple of rounding hammers I have come to use most of the time. I find that I can do most things with the round or flat sides sing the different radius's to achieve many different things. I also still use cross peens and they are always near for specific uses. Quote
rthibeau Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 one cannot have too many varieties of hammers......when you need an odd one, it will be there. Quote
HWooldridge Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Here is a pic of a couple of rounding hammers I have come to use most of the time. I find that I can do most things with the round or flat sides sing the different radius's to achieve many different things. I also still use cross peens and they are always near for specific uses.camera 009.jpeg=009.jpeg Is that a Hofi anvil those hammers are sitting on? Quote
MOblacksmith0530 Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 :D It is an Ozark pattern. It is the pattern Hofi and Tom Clark came up with and were selling until Tom passed on. So yes. Quote
basher Posted December 24, 2012 Author Posted December 24, 2012 I used EN8 for the hammer (1045) I managed to get quite a bit of it very cheap and am now at the end of it. it is a simple steel and will happily harden in water or brine in hammer section, it is almost good enough for axe use but does quite harden hard enough to take and hold a great edge. I am a big fan of using a steel I know and I must have made near 100 hammers in this stuff and am reluctant to change now. Quote
MOblacksmith0530 Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 I am with you on using the known steel. I like the 1040 to 1050 range steels and 1045 is the preference if I can get it. I was able to obtain a lot of the 4140 a few years back and it heat treats the same for me in hammer size chunks. You can use mystery steels and sometimes have good result but you never know until you finish a piece if it will work. I still like the hammer shape. Quote
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