Agita Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I've just picked up a Buffalo blower, Model no2E. It has a Buffalo Forge electric motor attached to it dated feb 13 1918. Looks like It was last used around that time too. I decided to clean it up a bit. De-greased it and color came through. A brilliant green. .....I've seen this green before. I have a never used 4" flatter that I cleaned to find the same color. The same story with some atha and random RR hot cuts, hole punches. All the same color green? Is this a historical thing I've missed? Most all of these items are 60+ years old. And I expect no one has just up and decided to color these in modern times. (then used them to the point that the color faded) Penny for your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthibeau Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 green??? no, purple maybe......... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george m. Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I THINK beverly shears may have come from the factory in green (mine is uniform rust color but I wouldn't mind restoring it someday). Greenly, George M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george m. Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Correction: Edwards shear, not Beverly. GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 A thin black paint seems to have been the most common factory issue color on old tools, usually because it was cheap, and prevented rust before it got to the customer. On cast items, many times the raised letters were highlighted in gold or silver. Red and other base colors less common. Army green and battleship grey seem to have been mostly on military sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Seelye Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 The factory where I used to work had green paint on all the equipment including the blacksmith shop. I'm just suggesting that maybe It might not be a manufacturing paint but a shop paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agita Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 In ya'lls opinion, would fully restoring this (and using it) destroy its value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 In ya'lls opinion, would fully restoring this (and using it) destroy its value? No. Use it and have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 my edwards shear is a light blue was in the same blacksmith shop from new (1910) to when i got it out in 2012. the old style little giants where green from the factory, the closest color Sid has found to original is shamerock green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 IMNSHO It's value is that of a tool. A non-used tool is a dust collector! These are not some rare treasured collectors items; they were sold by the thousands per the old catalogs. A "working" one is much more valuable than a non-working "patina'd" one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agita Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 I was going to gut it and replace the brushes and bushings. Repaint it AND use it. I could care less about your patina. I was told not to mess with that old of an electric motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I was going to gut it and replace the brushes and bushings. Repaint it AND use it. I could care less about your patina. I was told not to mess with that old of an electric motor. Oil/grease it and put some power to it - might run just fine. In addition, most of these were designed to run with a potentiometer to provide some speed control. Straight power won't hurt it but the blast will be wide open... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Einhorn Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Paint, repair and use. I'm sure the comment about patina was a joke. I always laugh at Stuart's jokes. Additionally, I have heard several antique dealers use "repaired by a blacksmith" as adding value to items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGreen Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 all my tools are Edward's and have Green paint on them too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agita Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 I love you guys, Its Data plate says "Will work on either direct current or alternating current. 25-40-50-60 Cycles. Voltage same as rheostat which must always be used with motor" Forgive the ignorance of someone my age, but does that mean that I could hook it up to my jeep that puts out 6v ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I love you guys, Its Data plate says "Will work on either direct current or alternating current. 25-40-50-60 Cycles. Voltage same as rheostat which must always be used with motor" Forgive the ignorance of someone my age, but does that mean that I could hook it up to my jeep that puts out 6v ? No, it means you can drive it off 110v DC or AC (I'm assuming it's not 220v). There are still 110v DC sources out there - think Lincoln Electric SA-200 welders; the little 110v plug in the center of the panel is DC. Since the plate says to use a rheostat, you may want to find one and hook in-line to control the speed. The brushes allow it to vary speed with the potentiometer - a brushless motor is either on or off unless using a VFD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 It absolutely was a joke......;I have to joke, knee-deep from from the hurricane............to keep me from crying........... Seriously? Are you flooding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Well, take it from someone who lives in flood country - if they advise evacuating, make sure you take off for higher ground. That equipment will dry out after being underwater - you won't. What would we ever do if Stewart wasn't around on IFI? Seriously - take care of yourself - it ain't worth dying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agita Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Wow, do take care...If you need somewhere to store your anvils I'll take good care of them. ;) on the other note. DARN!!! I was hoping to be able to do that. The only thing I've seen hooked up to dc like that now is a 100hp motor on 880v system. I thought scene it was so old it might work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 John Deer used green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthibeau Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I keep telling ya ..... purple is the blacksmith color.........along with gloss fire engine red and yellow..... ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borntoolate Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 The guys at Grizzly seem to like Green paint for tools... A lot! Of course they are not big on blacksmithing. They do sell some anvils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george m. Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Dear rthibeau, Purple doesn't become a blacksmith color until a couple of days after you have whacked yourself, then progressing to green and yellow. ;-) Contusively, George M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthibeau Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I guess I can't argue with that, George..... ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agita Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 LOL George Btw, does anyone know where to find a list of buffalo products where i can look at more infor about my new blower? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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