matto Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 when making a spring fuller or swage what size of strap is best and is mild steel ok to use? example: i want to make a spring swage for making the 3/16 tenon on the end of my 3/8 stock rose stems will 1" or 1 1/4" x 1/8" strap be ok for the spring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I always use 1/4x1-inch flat bar. I would stick with 1-inch wide instead of 1 1/4-inch flat bar. I find that even 1-inch feels large in my hands, so I certainly would not go any wider. I don't think 1/8-inch is thick enough....perhaps 3/16-inch would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Dean Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Dave, why would you be holding your spring fullers? 1/4 x 1 is what I use but I do have one that is 1/8 x 1 and it works OK...although I like the 1/4 better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 thanks for the input i will go with 1"x 1/4" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryFurnace Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Dave, why would you be holding your spring fullers? 1/4 x 1 is what I use but I do have one that is 1/8 x 1 and it works OK...although I like the 1/4 better. I haven't made tool holders for any of my PH's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'd be tempted to hand hammer a square tenon on the end with edge to edge blows for the shoulder. Then, monkey it up. The square hole monkey can be arc welded of flat and/or square M.S. The idea of the square tenon is to keep the the petals from ever twisting after assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric sprado Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I use tire irons for my fullers with part flattened out for spring effect. Either weld on a piece of square stock to fit hardy hole OR square up the end of the tire iron to fit hardy hole.. cheap trick that works great. I use tire irons for Zillions of things: Punches,knives,tongs.......buy em' at yard sales for .50 cents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewed Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'd use what ever fits into the hardy hole. I have a 7/8" hardy hole, so I use 1" and beat it to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'd be tempted to hand hammer a square tenon on the end with edge to edge blows for the shoulder. Then, monkey it up. The square hole monkey can be arc welded of flat and/or square M.S. The idea of the square tenon is to keep the the petals from ever twisting after assembly. my wandering about a spring swage for tenons is because i have about 55 roses to make for a client. so i thought it might speed up the making of the rose stems. but i do like the info on using a square tenon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 The larger the die the larger the strap. I make my dies out of S-7 and use them under a powerhammer I bought an acorn swedge it has a 1/8"x1" spring looks like mild steel. any time you can make a tool to make the job easier the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Seconded. Any time you have multiple pieces to make make a tool to speed it up. Faster, Better, Cheaper, it's the blacksmith way. Successful pro blacksmith that is. I like 1/4"x1" mild works just fine. Frosty The Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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