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Hello All,
If you happen to have a self contained hammer I have a request.
Set you bathroom scale under the ram when at rest (I used a small jack, just past the die, to lift and set it back on the scale).

My 3B Nazel has a weight of 230 pounds for ram and die.

This seems light to me, but you get what you get.

What do others have for a ram weight on their hammers?

Ric

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ric is it not likely that there is some friction resulting from the ram touching the bore .
try tapping the hammer with a great big hide mallet and see if you can put some weight on .

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I have weighed a few Massey 'Clear Space' rams, and a few smaller Alldays & Onions ones. They have all been scarily close to catalogue specs. (I have weighed the odd large anvil block and they have been within a few % aswell!)

It could be your ram has had a broken dovetail in the past and had a chunk machined off the end? or as Owen says it might be a bit sticky in the bore and box, you could try the experiment again when the hammer is nice-n-hot-n-loose to see if it makes a difference!

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1365 is my hammer number I recall.
It has a gross weight of 13,300..heavy for the nazel...so I do not know.
I do not believe that the ram is stuck in any way..the weight is accurate.

Ric

  • 2 weeks later...
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Ok, Phillip broke the mechanical hammer ice. My 85# Kane and Roach mechanical has an actual ram weight of 95#. On a related note, I don't recommend using your wife's bathroom scale unless she is more tolerant of cracked dial covers and oil drips than my wife is. ;)

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Ok, Phillip broke the mechanical hammer ice. My 85# Kane and Roach mechanical has an actual ram weight of 95#. On a related note, I don't recommend using your wife's bathroom scale unless she is more tolerant of cracked dial covers and oil drips than my wife is. ;)


that sounds like operator error more so than general concept.
I am a blacksmith...I believe that proves my wife is tolerant......its when the stainless mixing pots end up filled with wax and boiled linseed oil that she gets a bit testy.

Ric

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