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Neither one of those numbers are valid Hay Budden serial numbers. They never had a serial number in the 400,000's, and the highest any of the 'A' serial numbers go to is approximately A57000.

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Post some pics of the anvils, and reclean and recheck the numbers and the manufacturer's insignia or name. Hay-Budden serial#s are under the horn on the left side of the base. :)

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I cleaned the small anvil better and the serial number looks like A16599. The large one has nothing readable where the serial# is to be.Hay budden is very clear on the small one and not so clear on the large one.

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