brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Here are some tools Lyle, LDW, and I made today in less than 5 hours. I know you could do much more than this with other equipment, but all we had was us. I know it's barbaric but we did it in good time with what we had, a hammer, a sledge, a hot cut hardy, and top and bottom tools that we made the same way. We're going to Tannehill to tailgate and do the samething except we'll be doing it all day, not just half a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiphile Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Nice work you two. Looks really nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDW Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 It is awesome hitting a piece of steel as hard as you can with a big sledge hammer. Some of those tools are made from 4140 and some are made from jackhammer bits. The jackhammer bits are more fun to forge, they move a lot easier than the 4140. We cut a round piece of 4140 today that was 1 3/8" thick in 12 hits using one of Brians hot cuts and a top tool chisel. That may not sound like much but that is quick. It is amazing to me that Brian can remember all the different steps to making these different tools. This was a good day, Thanks, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely,Bob Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Amazing what you can do when you know what you`re about. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 Thank you, Lyle! You did great! All you have to do is heat it up, hold it under the dies, hit it, and it practically makes it's self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wargo New2bs Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Thanks for sharing guys. Fantastic work! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 You should have been there Mark. We would have put you to work. I wish someone could have vidio taped it, also. It could have given Lyle a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesteryearforge Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Nice work Brian and Lyle The good thing about the barbaric way is at the end of the job you feel like you actually did something. I know I had a blast when you were here and cant wait till december to see you again here in Virginia. December 3rd thru 5th at Yesteryear school of Blacksmithing. Anyone within traveling distance should check out the website for details if you're interested in taking a class with Brian http://www.yesteryearschool.com Mike Tanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 Mike, we're looking forward to it! You did quite a bit of good striking while we were there last November and so did Peyton. How is Peyton doing? I haven't seen him on IFI lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wargo New2bs Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Brian, I'm hoping to get over that way soon and do some work with you guys. I'd like to do some striking and I can bring a video camera and tripod. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 Brian, I'm hoping to get over that way soon and do some work with you guys. I'd like to do some striking and I can bring a video camera and tripod. Mark Wow! That would be great! We've only been able to do One heat videos with our little camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 What a treat to see the value of a good striker and 'smith working in unison, a rare event these days. Thanks to you both for rekindling old memories, and showing that you don't need a powerhammer to turn out good tools. Well done to you both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesteryearforge Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Brian Peyton is doing well You probally wont see him here anymore as he has been BANNED You can reach him through the school site or the guild site if you would like. Mike Tanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 10 tools in five hours, who needs a powerhammer? That is impressive guys. Hey Brian it looks like you are really spreading the hot cut out to give a wide cutting surface, can you explain this? I t seems like you would want the mass centered not spread out so thin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaylan veater Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 GREAT JOB!!! THE TOOLS LOOK GREAT, I AM SURE THEY WILL GO FAST. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND PICTURES.HAVE A GREAT DAY GAYLAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesteryearforge Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Brian I made a hot cut like that Much more efficient than a straight edge. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuge Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 So nice! What's the story on the wavy edge on the hex shaped hardy tools? Decoration, or is it a result of your process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 10 tools in five hours, who needs a powerhammer? That is impressive guys. Hey Brian it looks like you are really spreading the hot cut out to give a wide cutting surface, can you explain this? I t seems like you would want the mass centered not spread out so thin Clinton, If I would have had a power hammer with the right dies, I could have done alot more than that in 5 hours. I know my hot cut hardy can be easily forged in 1 or 2 heats with the right dies, but it takes us 5 heats including the cut to do them this way. There are a few reasons for the hot cut being spread out so wide. First, I cut large stock quite a bit and it gives me more area to turn it on. If I don't spread it side ways, it would get too long or tall, and when I finish with my flatter it would excede my flatter making me have to run the flatter instead of being able to hold it in one spot and not risk hitting my anvil. Mike, how does someone get banned from IFI? Peyton is a good guy, and he added alot to this sight. That hot cut hardy is my greatest invention. I have not seen a better or more efficient one out there. I'm suprised it hasn't caught on better. Everyone that has ever used it can tell instantly how much better it is. There is nothing out there that even comes close to being able to compete with it. Nuge, those were made from jack hammer bits, and that is the collar part of the bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K. Bryan Morgan Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Awesome work there Brian. I have a hot cut made by champion that is almost the same configuration as yours. It has the curved top where the cutting edge is. The sides are straight however. The hardy post is angled like yours and its made for a 1 - 1/4" hardy hole. My Hardy hole is 1" but I use it anyway. I'm cutting hot steel, so it has no ill effect to my hardy hole. It's about 60 yrs old. judging from the old mine site I got it from. The cutting edge isn't quite as curved as yours is though. I'll post a picture of it as soon as I get my camera some batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquamanlr Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 That is some nice work fellows. Keep it up. LeeRoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWHII Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 It is awesome hitting a piece of steel as hard as you can with a big sledge hammer. Some of those tools are made from 4140 and some are made from jackhammer bits. The jackhammer bits are more fun to forge, they move a lot easier than the 4140. We cut a round piece of 4140 today that was 1 3/8" thick in 12 hits using one of Brians hot cuts and a top tool chisel. That may not sound like much but that is quick. It is amazing to me that Brian can remember all the different steps to making these different tools. This was a good day, Thanks, Brian. I have some broken jack hammer bits, hand star drills and a broken digging bar. How do you think these materials would work for hot forging tools on a flypress or hydraulic press? H13 tool steel is a little pricey for me right now. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 I have some broken jack hammer bits, hand star drills and a broken digging bar. How do you think these materials would work for hot forging tools on a flypress or hydraulic press? H13 tool steel is a little pricey for me right now. Thanks. How about letting us know how it works for you Harold? H13 is kind of pricy for all of us all the time. Frosty the Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 I have some broken jack hammer bits, hand star drills and a broken digging bar. How do you think these materials would work for hot forging tools on a flypress or hydraulic press? H13 tool steel is a little pricey for me right now. Thanks. It will work just fine for fullering and larger forging dies, but for punches and chisels you'd be better of with the H13 under a hydraulic press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 Awesome work there Brian. I have a hot cut made by champion that is almost the same configuration as yours. It has the curved top where the cutting edge is. The sides are straight however. The hardy post is angled like yours and its made for a 1 - 1/4" hardy hole. My Hardy hole is 1" but I use it anyway. I'm cutting hot steel, so it has no ill effect to my hardy hole. It's about 60 yrs old. judging from the old mine site I got it from. The cutting edge isn't quite as curved as yours is though. I'll post a picture of it as soon as I get my camera some batteries. K. Bryan Morgan, I'd like to see some pictures of that hardy. I've never seen one like this one, but I know it works better than any other that I have ever seen or used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K. Bryan Morgan Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Hey Brian, here it is. Not quite as wide as I thought. But anyway its not a Champion. Thats my other hot cut. This one is an ACME. But it is the one I use most. As you can see it has a curved edge. Not quite as curved as yours, and like I said the sides are straight. But it sure cuts hot steel easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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