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So I took the day off and played around with the forge , this is the first time to fire it up, or any forge for that matter . And I wanted to do something cool so this is my first nail header . I know the nails dident come out very well , I need to leave more steel when I cut it off to have some for a good head . So tell me what you think .

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How does that anvil work out being on wheels? I would think they would be somewhat of a detriment.

Also , the top of that anvil looks fine, I wouldn't touch it. Working on it will help smooth it out.

I have one of those mud flap springs, I was thinking maybe a knife since it is a spring steel.

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How does that anvil work out being on wheels? I would think they would be somewhat of a detriment.

Also , the top of that anvil looks fine, I wouldn't touch it. Working on it will help smooth it out.

I have one of those mud flap springs, I was thinking maybe a knife since it is a spring steel.

I have never tried the anvil without the wheels so it would be hard to say , seems to be fine and it is very handy to move around although it is very top heavy   always push it never pull it it may fall over .

Man, its all I can do to not take a sander to it , but I will let it go for now, and spent my time making tools for the hardy hole . I need a cut off tool, other than a chisel in the vice and I need to make a tool to punch a hole for a handle some type of tapered drift pin . I have a 1 1/2 x 3 ft pin from a loader I am going to try to make fit the hardy hole but that's a lot of steel to move around we will see .  

I haven't tried to make a knife yet , but I will soon I have 50 RR spikes on the way, I will beat on a few of those before I make scrap  out of some good steel  LOL 

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Dear Winginit,

 

You might try putting some chocks (wedges) under the wheels while forging.  It would add some stability.  At some point you will be hitting the anvil in such a way as to give it a lateral push, e.g. if you are bending something down over the heel because the end of the piece bends back and has to go under the heel.

 

If you are going to make knives out of the RR spikes look up "super quench" on the internet.  It hardens spikes pretty well.  Quench but don't temper.  If there is a C on the head of the spike it is higher carbon steel than the regular ones.

 

Good luck.

 

GM

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Dear Winginit,

 

You might try putting some chocks (wedges) under the wheels while forging.  It would add some stability.  At some point you will be hitting the anvil in such a way as to give it a lateral push, e.g. if you are bending something down over the heel because the end of the piece bends back and has to go under the heel.

 

If you are going to make knives out of the RR spikes look up "super quench" on the internet.  It hardens spikes pretty well.  Quench but don't temper.  If there is a C on the head of the spike it is higher carbon steel than the regular ones.

 

Good luck.

 

GM

I have some 3" channel I may make a rectangle frame to move the wheels out farther  and then some drop down out riggers type feet that I can pin quick .

Thanks for the tip on the super quench I will try that .

     What is "Superquench"... ?

A super fast quenchant. So fast it can be used to harden mild steel but too severe to use with a higher carbon content. 

5 gallons water 
5 lbs salt 
28oz bottle of Dawn blue dish washing detergent 
8oz bottle of JetDry or other rinse aid.

As the quenchant becomes exhausted the color changes from blue to yellow/green.

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What size hardy hole does it have?

It would move easier if you have a striker with a sledge. I would not be opposed to welding shanks onto hardies to save some time.

Also search here for slitters. Slit the hole, then open it up with a drift.

 

It has an 1 1/4 hardy hole and it looks like someone buggered it up a little with a cutting torch , I had thought about making some type of sleeve to make it smaller so I could use a more common size square stock bar 3/4 or 1" ID

 

Yes a striker would be nice but I don't trust my 13 year old son that much LOL

 

I will look up slitters .thanks !!

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Well, you met some possible strikers last Saturday morning ;)

I would look at wheels that are at an angle, and won't touch ground until the item is tilted back onto them. Kind of like a wheel barrow except the wheels lift off the ground when the item is lowered onto the base.

Oh , kind da like a hand cart , I guess I could just take the wheels off and just move it with the hand truck . But--- but---, that would be to easy LOL 

 

Boy yesterday was a pain , I went to use the O/A and found out I was out of oxygen . And 

then I looked at the bottle closer, hay that's a rental bottle . I loaned my torches to a friend at work and he ran out of oxygen, and being a nice guy he took it down to get filled "exchanged" and they gave him rental instead of an owner bottle that was a few years back . well I am screwed .

 

So I went on CL, and found two bottles for sell whey were the 125 size not big but not small A young kid had them, he said they were his grandmothers and each one had it's own hand truck cool !! . 

He wanted 250.00 OBO and that's a good price but it said OBO so I offered 200.00 and we settled on 225.00 for the pair . Got them home and checked them out a bit closed they are out of date 10 of 01 but they had a + and a star so they will be good for 10 years when I get them tested . But that's ok . One bottle had 2000 LBS and the other one had 700 LBS so they will last a while .

So it cost me 225 bucks to be a nice guy and lone my torches out . No good deed go's unpunished LOL    

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You may be fine on the other bottle. When I had my shop the gas company just swapped our tanks out even though we owned them. They handled the hydro's too.

Check with your supplier, and tell them what happened.

Have you looked into Oxygen Propane?

Yes, I have two propane cutting  tips for propane and two nice aluminum tanks but  I don't think my rose bud will work with propane and the welding tips are not the same I think , I don't know for sure .

 

Hay, check this out a nice swage block on C/L 14 1/2" x 14 1/2" x 4 3/4" 425.00 they want a bunch for these on  flee bay .

 

 

http://goldcountry.craigslist.org/tls/4872101737.html

 

Poor anvil someone cut it .

 

http://chico.craigslist.org/tls/4878775752.html

 

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It was burned out of some 2" thick plate on a CNC torch, so no problem making, other than programming it. Actually, they may have used the photo eye on this project, I'll have to ask my Dad's buddy who also made some. The smaller one was done just by reducing it 50% in the torch.

The plan was to drill the smaller holes, but he never hot around to it. We did our dishing on stumps, which we had plenty of back home.

My work schedule got changed again, so it looks like I am back on a M-F schedule with the occasional Sunday for machine PM's. Let me know if you need a striker , and if I am free I'll let ya know.

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I keep going back looking at that swage block you have, I wish I would have thought about that one when I worked at steel eng we had a plasma with a bridge and trolley, program it on a turbo cut program, load it in the d6b and let it go, sweet !! It also had a tracing eye, paint it white and put it on a black background the eye would drop and load it on the floppy . Hind site is 20 20 I wish I would have made more cool stuff when I had the chance. Hate to see what they would charge for nice swage block . I'am sure if you have to ask it would be to much LOL . Thanks for the striker offer, I know it's a drive to vegas I think it was 97 miles from my house to echo bay "on the freeway" where I had my boat moored . I have about 10 bikes and drive lake shore all the time just for fun so I go through moapa valley quite a bit, if you need a hand on something just let me know . I am off on weekends .

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Hay guys , I have been trying to stay busy  and got a few things done . I finished the brake drum forge not that I need it after building the bigger  one , but I like to finish what I start .

   And I found some 3/4 x 2 x 16" stock and I'am almost done with my first hardy hole tool , a cut off, I still need to weld it and heat treat it .

   And I am almost done with my very first railroad spike knife . 

 

   I hope all is well with you guys !!!

 

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I have a friend who had a pottery studio that she is having too close. She is also going through a bankruptcy, and is selling off what is left. I was there yesterday, and she has a good sized pile of steel ; tubing, plate, bar stock, channel, angle, bed frames, expanded steel, .....

If you are looking for anything let me know soon, as the property is due to be turned over to the bank soon. It is located up near the Santa Fe casino on Rancho, so not far from where we met for breakfast. It is pretty much a make offer situation, but don't take advantage. This money is literally what will keep her going in the short term, and is her only income at the moment. She is taking care of her mother, and a kid too, so this money is very important to her.

She also has tons of other stuff like tools, firewood, chairs, garbage cans, shop vac, pressure pot sand blasters, fire bricks, benches, shelves, rolling carts, and a lot more.

 

 

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Hey guys - almost forgot about this thread for a while, as life has gotten super busy on this end. I think at our meeting I told ya'll that I was trying to open a community woodshop here in Vegas. Well, we're open now, so if you want to come check us out, look up communitytoolchest.com for details. I know we're not supposed to advertise and plug for ourselves on iforgeiron, but I think the folks at the meeting were interested, so I hope I'm not breaking too many laws, And, I think this is a good thing for Vegas, and for folks like yourselves who like to make things. And, we're hoping to expand into other trades as we go, including blacksmithing of course. We might even be able to organize something at the shop. Shoot me a PM if you want more info.

Man, it's been months since I've banged on steel - I sure miss it, and feel like I'll be starting from scratch again whenever I get back to it. It's cool to see some of you guys have been busy:)

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