monstermetal Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 So my dad gave me some big ol square nuts to squish in the Flatifier.... Which I did... and much to my surprise the thing de-laminated.... So I cut and broke one and did a spark test.... They are defiantly low or no carbon.. no split bright sparks.. The break test is a little strange... If it is wrought its better grade wrought than other things I have done the break test on.. And like I said... these are big... I think this one is about a 2 1/2" About 4 1/2" square and 3 1/2" tall So what do you all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfootnampa Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Sure looks like wrought iron to me! The crumbliness seems typical to me also. Heat it all back up and squeeze it all back together. You need a bright yellow almost white heat though... welding heat. Personally I rarely find it worth the trouble... but it's good practice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Yep, sure looks like wroughton iron. Bet you can sell them to Dave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Budd Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 looks like reasonable quality wrought to me I think that you should just crush the nuts and sell them as paperweights, lamp bases, etc. The split one look sVERY cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Sculpture Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Them be some big nuts! Monstermash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Definitely WI, looking like it was worked below proper temp too. I like the look though you might build a top tool that would do the squish but leave a depression in the center that would hold a candle and sell them as candle holders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Thompson Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 The grain is going the wrong way, WI nuts should be made from welded rings so that the fibres are wrapped around the bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted April 1, 2010 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 The grain is going the wrong way, WI nuts should be made from welded rings so that the fibres are wrapped around the bolt. ? So you are voting against it being wrought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Leppo Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 the second pic... did these have the spikes I see on the bottom? If so, maybe these were designed for use with wood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted April 1, 2010 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 the second pic... did these have the spikes I see on the bottom? If so, maybe these were designed for use with wood? No.... thats a bit of trickery... I'll have to take another picture to show what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I think they are WI do to the delamination and point out that while *best* practice would have been to weld a ring and then tap it there is a whole lot of "not so good practice" out there---it wouldn't be mentioned in places like "Practical Blacksmithing", Richardson, unless folks were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_edge2 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 i think the top pic should be a display decorative bit, looks good, and the rest, send to me, bill to naked anvil,..:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Thompson Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 ? So you are voting against it being wrought? No, they're definitely WI but with the grain parallel to the bolt they are too easily split. High strength nuts are made by welding a ring from a length of bar, forming the flats, sizing the hole and then cutting the thread. With a nut made like this there is a weakness as the fibres are tending to be pulled apart rather than stretched along their length. I suspect that with this size it probably doesn't matter much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 No, they're definitely WI but with the grain parallel to the bolt they are too easily split. High strength nuts are made by welding a ring from a length of bar, forming the flats, sizing the hole and then cutting the thread. With a nut made like this there is a weakness as the fibres are tending to be pulled apart rather than stretched along their length. I suspect that with this size it probably doesn't matter much. Yeah I can see that.... There is a lot of meat in these though, the sides of the nut are over a 1" thick and 3" tall... that is a lot of material for even a large nut... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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