clinton Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 finally got around to putting a roof over my shop just in time they say it may rain next week although we havent had much in the past few years we will see. i framed it out of metal studs used 6'' 16ga for the posts welded 12'' oc i built two box headers to span the shop area the joists are 2 1/2'' 18 ga the roof panels were salvaged off a building that was going to be tore down. the studs were left over from jobs i worked in the past so it only cost me my own labor to put up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Looking good! I'm sure your tools will be happy to be out of the rain and sun. Are yopu going to make some drapes to help with blowing rain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divermike Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 cool roof, don't you guys grow artichokes down there?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 That's nice looking. It sure must be nice to live in a neighborhood that doesn't have an HOA. Nice looking swage blocks you have there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beornls Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 That'll keep the sun and rain off! looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstein Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Nice work Clinton! Planning for the weather, good idea, it was a bit chilly and wet when i was there last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 thanks for the input guys fe-wood yes i am planing some type of protection for the wind i have some heavy canvas that should work nice also my dad is up there in your neck of the woods maybe i will try to come by your place next time i am up that way. divermike- we grow every thing over here in the way of produce we are the salad bowl of the world a bag of artichokes is like 6 bucks at farm stand. today i am going to the local college to make some gutters i have two pieces of 18 ga sheet metal it was going to cost about $120.00 at home repot and i am not working now so i figured this would be the best way just need to use the 10' sheet metal brake and the shear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Since you seem to have a nice concrete floor, putting some feet and maybe wheels on some sheets of plywood standing up can make for a nice easy to move wall. If you make a Z brace to reinforce the feet you can nest them rather tightly together for storage too. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWHII Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Nice space you have there! I put my shop up in much the same way. Then my neighbor complained to the city and they made me tear it down because I put it up with out a permit. Hope you have nice neighbors. HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Xxxx neighbors and double xxxx permits!!! Why can't people just let us play with fire in peace? Clinton- you are welcome anytime, especially if you come armed with a bag of Artichokes or my other seasonal favorite, Asparagus mmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat pete Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 i have experienced the lovely fruits and veggies u have at your dispsal....we are pretty good too however our seasons are way too short...we dont have inspectors or any of that xxxx out where i live...i can still burn trash ....roofs are no problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Fat Pete, You burn roofs too!..Oh, my! A friend of mine in town built a cover like that to fix his car under and one of his neighbors turned him in. It was built way over code and it took him three months, a fine and engineered drawings to finally get a permit to build something that was already built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 All they want is the money and to asses a value so they can add it to your property tax bill. Oh ya, and to makle sure you built it right... Get you coming AND going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Property tax on my house last year $1,450! Arizona has got one of the worst school system in the Union and I have one of the highest tax bills and can't build a shade for smithing either. My blood pressure just jumped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Sorry, Bentiron, I can't feel sorry for you. My property taxes run about $6,000.00. I don't have a palace, 2,500 sf house 1,200 sf shop and five acres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K. Bryan Morgan Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 One nice thing about living in rural Alaska is, no building codes. One bad thing about living in rural Alaska is, no building codes. You should see what passes for a house here sometimes. That being said. No one tells me what to do on my land. And I like that. But, also I have worked in construction most of my adult life and I know how to build well. I haven't had to build any out structures here. I have a 12'x16' shed and a 6'x12' chicken coop. Not to mention the pole barn for the cars. Codes and code enforcement can be a pain. But, they are there for a reason. The laws of Hammurabi (sp) said that if a builder builds a house and it falls and kills the owner the builders life is forfit. They have been with us a long time. If I ever do build a structure here on the property it will be built to a strict building code, even though one is not needed. Safety first. Personally I think your smithing space is well built and thought out. Looks good to me. I'm working under a tent as I am trying to get the shed heated and insulated And in these temps that's not fun. Note to self, gasser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentiron1946 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Grant, Do have good schools, fire protection, trash pick up, regular police patrol, library privileges? I got 1/4 acre, no shop, so it sounds like you have a much better deal than me! That's about $1200 an acre which sounds like heaven to me for what you have. You may be so far out in the boondocks that you have to pay for fire protection and trash pickup, have no library and schools where the graduates from high school don't know how to figure the square foot of a building and never see the sheriff except when there's trouble but when I read about Washington state it ain't flat arsed broke and the education system is rated a lot higher than Arizona's ever was. Bryan, I agree about building codes being there for safety but when they harass you to the point of nervous break down or towering rage the inspector has gone to far. That is not the point of having a building code. Some of these men are just mean spirited when they get a little power put at their disposal. I have been through it with one such fellow. He was totally ignorant of what he was supposed to be enforcing and it took intervention of others to get him to back down and give me my green tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukellos Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Nice work Clinton. You're a carpenter but you chose metal studs? I swung a framing hammer for years in my younger days and I've never tried metal stud construction. The missus needs another shed for her holiday decorations and I was thinking metal studs. How hard are they to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukellos Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Some of these men are just mean spirited when they get a little power put at their disposal. I have been through it with one such fellow. He was totally ignorant of what he was supposed to be enforcing and it took intervention of others to get him to back down and give me my green tag. There's nothing more annoying than a little man with a little authority. Back in the late 1700's the French came up with a neat cure for bossy, unresponsive government. A good smith could build one in a few afternoons. I'm new to this site, Bentiron. I live down here in Mesa. AZ. I have a humble little hobby smithy with a propane forge. I put it under a "ramada" like Clinton's, only all wood. It works. I used 3" of clean fine sand, well, it was clean at one time, for the floor. It's easy on the feet, but makes it easy to lose small tools and parts. No complaining neighbors...yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrann Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Death and taxes are certainties... Nice roof... like the idea of steel .. all steel all the time.. very little fire danger... Over here I got .45 acre.. about 1800 square feet to live in... and about $3800 in taxes... I wanted to build a shop.. the town wanted me to pull a permit... $325... submit engineered plans... who knows how much $.. and !! build it to a 125 mph wind uplift requiremnt... adding about $1200 to my build cost for steel hurricane hardware... now I get the concept that if you are building a new house.. but I wanted a 10 by 12 shed.... I have been in construction for years.. and know how to build safe buildings.... but that was excessive.... but this is where I chose to live... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divermike Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Metal studs are really easy to do if you can run a screwgun. I highly recommend building with them, no combustability factor there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Nice work Clinton. You're a carpenter but you chose metal studs? I swung a framing hammer for years in my younger days and I've never tried metal stud construction. The missus needs another shed for her holiday decorations and I was thinking metal studs. How hard are they to use? yes i am a carpenter and out here metal stud framing is a good portion of our work i have been doing it primarily for over 10 years it is actually very easy to work with just noisy when cutting with a chop saw we use a lot of "heavy gauge" material (16ga-12ga) we use self tapping screws except on 25ga use pointers 16'' oc or 24'' oc and it is usually built in place as opposed to wood frame where you stand the wall up after you frame it. i could go on but if you want any pointers when you build that shed just send me a p-m and i will help you out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Nice space you have there! I put my shop up in much the same way. Then my neighbor complained to the city and they made me tear it down because I put it up with out a permit. Hope you have nice neighbors. HH ya the nay-bors i hope no one says anything the guy behind me prob wont say anything next door i think im good caddy corner is a little iffi thinking about a little gift maybe some trivets or something to keep every one happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Boy, I thought my taxes were high! Not so, compaired to Washington. I agree we need a baseline for building standards and yes proper inforcement but when the building and planning department tells you what you can and cannot do on your land, that when my blood pressure starts to rise! Sometimes it truely makes no sense. You can take a 5000 Sq ft. lot and put a 4500 sq ft house on it as long as you are within the set backs. Try putting a 1200 sq ft house with a 1000 sq ft shop. Ain't hapn'n, have to call it a 4 car garage insted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Fat Pete, You burn roofs too!..Oh, my! QUOTE] I think he means he burns the roofs of inspectors who xxx him! Just joking Mike, the only inspectors who've visited our place were reasonable folk who agreed my normal level of overkill more than met any codes. Frosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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