billd Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Brian: Thanks for the quick answer. However I still would like to know what are the dimensions of the slitter you used for this tong. Is the width at the end equal to the final dimension of the rivet hole? Does it taper wider from that point, or does it remain that width for a bit before tapering? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 Sorry, Bill. I got this post confused with another post talking about hammer drifts. The drift for the tongs is in the forth picture of the very first post of this thread, and it is as you described it from Slitter Geometry. I think you may be confusing the third picture witch shows the punch that made the slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Brian: Sorry about that. I am talking about the punch in the third picture and its dimensions and shape. Any info about the punch would be appreciated. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 I am unable to post pictures on my computer right now, but Slitter Geometry shows the slot punches in detail. I usually use a small V punch for the tongs, but the other grind for thin stock works well also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 check out my two vids of making this punch.... all using brians techs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ0yOf5bvmw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL i should have taken the end a little thinner though thickness wize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 thanks brian for teaching me this stuff!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 the grind on that punch is a little too angled v wize for punching as thin as the hammer tongs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 You know I can't teach anyone anything. You taught yourself by trying, doing, and understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 but i managed to teach myself by being shown by YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 Yes, Grasshopper. I like those videos. Keep them coming. I need to get some way of doing videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Grasshopper what relevance has that??????? Thank Brian! Yes, you do need to make LOTS more videos!!! Take them on Karens iPad, not best quality ever but it works as good as anything and it is super easy to upload straight to you tube on her iPad... Heck... She might even teach YOU how to do it all!!!!! Although...there is no such thing as a teacher! You would be teaching yourself!!!!!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkunkler Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Grasshopper what relevance has that??????? Kung fu. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iaamkUEF_A And a funny version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWlJndr3BKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Alec: Thanks for the videos. Gives me a much better idea of the steps in making a punch. Even though I'm 66 years old, I want to be just like you when I grow up. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Thanks Alec, but please do something about securing that grinder, and adjusting the tool supports before you do some damage to yourself. It's a bad example to set to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Haha! That gave me a good laugh, bill!!!!! Thanks!! John... Yes this sounds like petty excuses but... The reason for it moving was because it was half on a piece of plate and as a lazy so and so would do while being too eager to shoot a video, i didn't take five seconds to Move it and the camera ( another reason, the camera wouldn't see it and I had spent five minutes finding the perfect spot for it! ) and with the tool rests, again lazy, but thirty secs after the vid I ground another tool in the same fashion ( while video taping so I have proof) and I did then move the tool rest.. Yes...I am a bit of an idiot...and after uploading the vid and looking through it I knew someone would say that and it took quite a while!!! Alec ( the idiot ) ( lazy ) ( but usually 100% safe I never skint on PPE when cutting, grinding or welding ) ( but still sometimes can't be bothered to move a grinder five inches. ) Thanks for your post, John... It made me think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 A few seconds saved could mean a life, an eye, a finger, not only yours but also someone elses. There are enough idiots out there misrepresenting blacksmithing, pleas don't become one of them. We should do our best to address that problem, also remember if its on the net, it is there for a very long time, and not only people wanting to learn the skills, but potential clients will be watching, so please don't denigrate the craft, We should be raising the standards, I applaud your enthusiasm , and how you learnt from Brian's videos, but you are now getting your own following as you mature, and people wiil be learning from YOUR videos. With that comes responsibilty and I know you are man enough to rise to that responsibilty and address it. Keep up the good work, and just make that little extra effort to project the right image. Good luck with your Craft Show, I'm off to the Forge in at Westpoint now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evfreek Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Hi Alec. Thanks for the videos. They are really clear, and I appreciate all the detailed comments, especially in the other threads about hot cutting the rounds for the hammer and taking 9 heats to make that big drift. They help to keep things real. John B is right about those grinders. They are as dangerous as a monkey with a machine gun. I once had an accident caused by too much space between the tool rest and the wheel. It turned out a little worse than those little slips, but fortunately I wasn't hit. It was really loud, though, and it was a wake up call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbe Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Made myself a pair of these tongs yesterday. This is the result. The reins came out a bit short perhaps. The total length is 16". Lets see if they're any good... :) Planning to do some handled top tools to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbrazealblacksmith Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Nice job, Tubbe! I also liked the hearts you posted a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Yates Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Thank you Brian for the post and Video these will be a project to do on my list . Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingXS Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Can the links to the original photos for this thread be updated??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. K. Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Something happened a while back with the site and a lot of the photos Brian had posted have been lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingXS Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Something happened a while back with the site and a lot of the photos Brian had posted have been lost. That's a shame, when I go to the smithy next week I'm hoping to make some. I have watched the video but was hoping to get some more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eirebeary Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 So sad these photos don't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Rockcress Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Regretfully I have been away for awhile and inadvertently neglected to add an article which was written by Mr. Brazel. It is now posted below. I hope this is not a duplicate of a previous entry. There are a number of tong photos I believe are finished products of Brian's tongs and related to the series of photos which have been thankfully restored to this forum. I will gather these and post them ASAP. On a personal note I am grateful to return home to Maine and look forward to lighting a fire and put a hammer in my hand. The forge, postvices and their stands are set up. A new anvil stand is in order, the stump it is on needs to be repurposed. Lastly, It looks like I will need to start out hammering some new tools. In my absence some have apparently grown legs. Gotta love those children, and be proud of they got me started in metal work. Wishing you all the best, Timothy Rockcress *Tongs - Alfred Habermann Way.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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