Thanks for your quick replys. I forgot to mention that I'm from South Africa and Afrikaans speaking and my computer skills aren't that great (a bit illiterate in that department) so if that spelling and the tenses and that stuff doesn't always make sense then please forgive me, I am much better with my hands, that I promise you. Like I said: I've been forging for +- 17 years and have made some pretty stunning stuff I think (how's that for patting your own shoulder). My problem is selling it, I rather give my creations away than to charge for something I love doing. Had the same problem when shoeing horses. I know it's wrong, I was taught to help where and when ever I can. I am probably the worst bussiness man there is, I never know how much to charge and when I do charge I feel guilty in taking the money. With shoeing it was a bit easier "charge what the others charge" I am pretty sure that you guys will help me see the light and show me the way.