Frosty how are you? Glad to be back to hammering and posting. Think i might need to simplify my design for first attempt. Might try my hand at forge weld have mild steel i could use 1 piece on each side of a piece of smaller coil spring i have in middle give me the beef i need to have a thicker billet. I know forge welds can be tuff but never learn if dont try. Time to get a plan for next session.