I worked high production tie gangs in the late 70's to middle 90's Mainly on Tie Gang 9 for Foreman Big Nic ( Les Nicholas) a several times winner of Gandy Olympics BNRR. Not only did we wind mill spikes down with up to 4 men but also much harder to hit was crossing spikes where the head of the spike was about the size of a dime and we used to make it harder by using the smaller end of the spike maul . That my friend takes talent!