Thanks for the advice and the warm welcome. I do agree that my skill lv is less than what would make that lv of grinder necessary. I have been lurning and inproving at a pretty good rate as soon as i can figure out how to resize photos kike it said imto do in the part for people new to the site. Ill show some of my work. I usely spend about 6 to 9 hours a day in my shop and then 3 more hours on you tube studying. Left my other job and realy jumping in with both feet. Ive wanted to blacksmith my hole life and finly own a home and have a permanent place to set up a shop. So im optimistic that it will be more like buying your kid shoes that are a size and a half to big cus there growing so fast you know they will need that size in a few months. And lets be honest we all would have loved a chance to drive a lambo with our lurners permit.