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About Jarntagforge

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    Vasa, Finland
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    Blacksmithing. Wood work. Gym. Violin.

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  1. Our tractor wasn't able to lift it off the truck. When the lifting arm is high up, as in above the hammer, the hydraulic cylinder is pushing along the lifting arm and thus is very weak. I'mm have to ask a neighbour with the JCB tractor or a professional. Also as the hammer was a smaller model afterall, the body weighs only 1700 kg. We managed to lift the anvil down, that one was 1000 kg.
  2. The hammer is home! Thanks for the advice, friends! It was really useful to hear about putting wood boards underneath. I think it anchored the hammer well onto the truck bed - wood being a perfect mix of stoft and sticky and supportive. I couldn't notice any movement at any time. We really underdid ourselves on the fastening. A chain and a strap for the anvil. Two chains and one strap for the hammer (and one strap to hold the ram in the air). Yeah it was dangerous, but at least we drove carefully and had long safety distances between us and the car in front of us. Some cops in a car we passed on the roads really turned their heads to look at the load but they didn't stop us. That's my dad on the picture with all the trucks and our feisty steel horse. A thing the crane operator told us was that it was lucky that it was raining, as it cools the tires. The tires could overheat when driving long distances with heavy loads. The front tires got a little warm but not anything alarming. We stopped every 1,5 h on the way home. The way there took 7 hours and the way back took 8 hours. So sleepiness was also a danger. That's why we drove carefully and stopped often. The hammer felt small when I looked at it at home, and when I measured the footprint of it, I realized it was a size smaller. It's a 75 kg hammer, and the seller said 120! The closest model was a 100 kg one so I went by that. But I got it for less than scrap price so I'm happy anyway. With transport it cost me 900€. I'll have to fix it up, it's out of tune somehow and only has a 4.5 kW motor that they said is too small also. Best regards, Jakob Staffans @Jarntagforge
  3. Thanks for the tips. I'll bring some 2" boards and place them under the load. As for getting it off, our neighbours have a JCB tractor so I'll ask them first if it has the capacity to lift it, otherwise I'll widen my search. The hammer can wait ontop of the truck.
  4. Hey all, I've bought a 100-year-old two-piece self-contained airhammer. It's a Mammutwerke model MW3 from Nürnberg, Germany. It's in southern Finland though so it's not that far. The hammer body weighs 2200 kg/4890 lbs and the anvil 1300 kg/ 2890 lbs. The seller arranges extraction from the blacksmith shop and onto our Renault S150 midliner. I have a few questions I hope some wise man or woman could answer. Our midliner truck has a flat bed, made up of softer sheet steel on the frame, do I need to put wooden boards under the power hammer to distribute the load evenly on both the hammer and truck? Or is that even a stupid idea for some reason? I'm a little worried about the hammer possibly standing on a few bearing points and driving with it through bumps and uneven roads for 7 hours. What if the ring-like part of the hammer that holds the anvil cracks? Another thing I'm wondering about is what are the minimum requirements for fastening such a heavy load to the truck? We have 3 half-inch chains with tightheners and five 2-inch, 50 mm ratchet tie-down straps. That's 8 fasteners all in all. I assume 4 fasteners per piece is minimum. Are these enough for this load or do I need to buy more? Here's a truck with bed similar to my dad's Renault S150., minus the fold-down-ramp. I'm thinking I might put the hammer body close to the cab and the anvil behind the body. My dad and brother-in-law will becoming along. What do you guys and gals think, is there any other advice that's good to know? Best regards, Hobby blacksmith, Jakob Staffans Kimo, Finland Here's a link to a german forum with some pictures of a hammer of this make, but the hammer in that forum is smaller, a 50 kg model. and here's a video of that 50 kg MW1 running. Watch out, the audio is broken and gives "BEEP" "BLIP" sometimes so keep the volume down.
  5. Thanks! Last weekend I and my girlfriend went on another trip. We drove up from Vaasa to Tornio on a friday where I bought this 250 gallon/1000 liter air tank. It's from 1988 but it had been inspected at least 4 times. Which is all really re-assuring! Last time was in 2017. I'm gonna use it mainly for my home-made airhammer. After that we drove over to Sweden to buy a 150 kg/330 lb sawyer's anvil. No dents or anything. I heard it's good for forging on as it rebounds really well all-over, as opposed to heeled anvils. Will be fun to try it. Then we stayed the night in Luleå, ate at a fancy restaurant, and drove down to Umeå the next day. We walked around town, ate at a fancy restaurant, had some drinks and stayed in a hotel which served a great breakfast the next day. Then we took the boat back to Vaasa on sunday. best regards, Jakob Staffans Vaasa, Finland
  6. It seems faces is his thing. He does some other stuff too. Here's his gallery. http://oshipala.com/gallery.html
  7. Here's another video of him, where he actually uses a jack hammer!
  8. Do you know the stroke length of a 200 lb Chambersburg utility hammer? I built one homemade utility hammer and would like to modify it to have the same stroke length :-)
  9. Related question. Could a 250 kg, 550 lb air hammer be used for making hammers and axes without the additional weight of the tup being a significant downside? Because you can cycle it down and just tap the work. A bigger hammer is always better, is my thinking. But actually this is my question so I shouldn't answer it myself. What do you guys think?
  10. Thanks, Beaver! If anyone else have any ideas I'd be curious to know more about in-slides power hammers vs clear space hammers. At some point all manufacturers moved away from in slides. Is there some disadvantage to them? One think I'm thinking of is throat height (if that's the term). As in height of the working piece and top tools. Clear space hammers seems like they can fit more stuff. If I were to say for example "I'm going to buy this in-slides hammer for 3000€." Would anyone quickly remark something like "Don't buy that 100 year old technology, buy the newer Bêchés!" ? 250 kg Bahco (this is the potential seller's instagram)
  11. I don't know, I didn't ask anyone for permission I just did it First we picked up the spring hammer from the retiring blacksmith on the first photo, and then we went to IKEA So the girlfriend was happy. I borrowed her dad's big Ford Transit van and I pushed it near its payload weight limit with this... The van should be able to hold 1500 kg and this hammer was anything between 1000 and 1400 kg, maybe 1100? On top of that was the large old-style electrical motor whose weight we just ignored but probably weighed at least 200 kg... we loaded the hammer from the back of the van and you could hear all kinds of creaking sounds. The suspension sunk down... to still an acceptable height. *phew* Then we drove to Ikea, loaded up some furniture and drove home. Thinking back on the loading I get anxious. Would have sucked so hard if anything on the car had broken down, 5 hours ride away from home.
  12. You could look on online flea markets or ebay or such. I found exactly what you were looking for but in Finland. A local reclaimed steel and steel trader is retiring and selling his stock. Even if he hadn't been retiring he would still have a bunch of it. Maybe there's someone local. You could ask local construction steel suppliers for info on such traders.
  13. You could look further. Netherlands and France. Ask french or dutch friends for good websites where they sell that stuff. I've had good road trips with my girlfriend when buying equipment.
  14. Yeah sure, I would like those plans. You can send them to me at [email protected] Thanks a lot. I have a question. There's a similar hammer for sale in Sweden. It's a Bahco and it's identical in design to yours so I guess they perhaps bought a liscence or something and made copies of Massey hammers, those old ones, like the one you have. The one I know of is 550 lb. I was wondering what's the practical difference, or difference in operation or longevity or similar between those old air hammers with in-line rams and the newer cylinder-rams like on newer Masseys or Anyangs? Rectangular rams and cylinder rams.
  15. What a great thread. Thanks for all the information and sharing from everyone, especially you, BeaverNZ. I have a question, I read it all and I don't think I saw this anywhere. Shouldn't the anvil have wood directly under it? Maybe it does? I tried to see if you wrote you put wood under it but I couldn't find anything. I ask because when reading this book on page 543 and 544, https://ia600205.us.archive.org/24/items/machineryfoundat00crof/machineryfoundat00crof.pdf it seems to me they put wood under the anvils. To my understanding to absorb the impact so the slides don't have to, and that the frame would break otherwise. But then again of course I don't know the answers either way, I'm just asking. I dig you hammer!