Thomas, I have a little coal forge that works awesome, ive done my share of welding and had some successful faggot welds but its hard in a coal forge. That's why I'm trying to make a gas one. Wasn't really educated on the necessity of oxidation, thanks for bringing it to my attention. Thanks for the help JJ as well, defiantly looks like I need to do a little more research on that. Anything else yall think I missed? It would help a lot, like I said, I don't like doing things twice!