Years of experience or not, the Puritan attitude put forth with snide remarks are uncalled for. I'm not a blacksmith nor a professional in this field and got into building this for fun and to melt a little metal. I've always gone by the KISS Rule of thumb. After all It's not a piano I'm building here but this forum, or this experience with this part of it anyway, has made it un-fun. Its ok though, I appreciate anyone's help butt I'll be moving along respectfully. To those that enjoy the hobby, good luck and happy burning