Jon Lewman
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Learn with mild steel, they make good tongs and are more forgiving for when you are starting out and are afraid to work when Hot.
You didn't fail, You had a lesson.
Neil
afraid to work hot?
I havea spot o my belly that says it was hot...Lol
I will try agsin with mild steel. Not sure of sucker rod properties?
I have no experience of sucker rod - they do not exist here but looking at the pictures I get a feeling that the stock has been overheated. Silly questions but did you get sparks at some time during the process?
Göte
hmmm, not sparks. I did have those pretty little dancing sparkly things a few times when pulling out of fire?
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Did not quench them.
Using 5/8 suckered rod.
The first one broke at the rivet hole whIle punching, when I hit it, I saw it rip apart from the punch. I figured it was because the center punch spreads and basically rips whereas a drift shears.
So I guess it must be that I left a sharp corner?
Maybe I should've normalized after working?
And why did the material split when I tried drawing it down?
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So my first set of Tongs broke while punching the hole. I figured because I used a center punch instead of a drift.
Tonight I cut the broken end off and rebuilt it, drilled the hokes and pinned. Was happy with the results.
Then when I tried to use them, about 10 hits in and the jaw snapped off.
Been using sicker rods. I have also had problems drawing it down. Two different prices I squared up, then when I tried drawing it the end split into 3 pieces?
Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
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Thanks Neil
Always loved metal work, actually studied black smithing for years. Knowing how things "used" to get done actually helps me figure out how to do things in a machine shop! !
And the Salt Fork guys are local ABANA. My job has me pretty busy right now, but hoping to connect with them soon!
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Hi, I'm Jon (goofy wave thingy here)
From South East Kansas, son of a mechanic, and I am a machine shop foreman. I have watched 4,782 hours of you tube on black smithing. I can prove it by the $280 worth of extra data fees last month.
Built myself a brake drum forge, and charcoal retort and been playing around for a few weeks. Which equates to about a good weekends forging with my schedule. I bent some stuff, looped some rod, twisted a mess, decided I needed to make something so I got some suckered rod and fashioned out a set of tongs. They looked great, was rather proud, very symmetrical for a first try. Only took an hour. So now I need a hinge hole but I do not have a drift. I have a center punch, that'll work!
So that jaw I sent flying, would that be because a center punch spreads the steel and breaks it in two pieces, or did I do something else wrong???
Tongs Breaking
in Tongs
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Played with some more. One piece worked great, the next piece as soon as I hit it split into 3 pieces.
Getting some different materials.
Guess I need beginner steel, lol.