DuEulear

I like the look and tge roughness of the handle makes tge whole piece kinda midevil. The pattern looks great i would have taken him up on his first offer it is worth it easy

I considered doing somthing like that but wound up just making the vertical opening ajustable with two old bolts welded to the verticaly sliding door that lead through a shelf welded to the top of my forge. I eaither ajust it before lighting or to ajust it hot use a deepwell socket to spin the nuts by hand . i figure i can add a lever system later someday using the bolts as both guides / attachment points

Well i dont suppose it will wander to the store with your credit card to buy its own lube . If it did i think the cleark woud just run

I havent but regular antisieze is a moly based lube so i can see it working well and i agree evry time i work on a car that stuff gets evrewhere the slippery stuff will turn anything you get it on black but i only used a tiny dab wiped on the punch

Somewher on here someone gave the recipe for ye ol’e slippery stuff for a punch lube but i couldent find the thread again to give credit to ya well i made some and i just want to say wow this stuff really works incredable thanks to you oh master of punch lube 1 part molibdanum dysulfide powder 3 parts graphite powder by weaight just enough water to make a paste and jus a dab of dishsoap to break surface tension bottomed out a 1/4 round punch in 1 hit in 1/2 plate granted i was using a #5 flypress but the punch came right out and the steel was not held down if you havent tried it you should enjoy du

Somewher on here someone gave the recipe for ye ol’e slippery stuff for a punch lube but i couldent find the thread again to give credit to ya well i made some and i just want to say wow this stuff really works incredable thanks to you oh master of punch lube 1 part molibdanum dysulfide powder 3 parts graphite powder by weaight just enough water to make a paste and jus a dab of dishsoap to break surface tension bottomed out a 1/4 round punch in 1 hit in 1/2 plate granted i was using a #5 flypress but the punch came right out and the steel was not held down if you havent tried it you should enjoy du

Borax works well you can also mix borax with iron powder purchased online for fairly inexpesive and make your own iron laden flux i caint give a recipe as i havent tried it 20 mule is cheap and it works

Not bad not bad at all i like the scroolwork handle du

Good point hans i forgot that bit

The porous rock in acetylene tanks is flooded with acetone when they charge the tank with acetylene it dissolves in the acetone this stabilizes it under pressure otherwise one bump and the tank would go up like tnt. That is why if you exceed the flow rate allowable of acetylene from a given tank size it can cause a explosive situation as some of yhe acitone can leak out then there wont be enough to stabilize the cylinder enjoy

I agree i guess i got a little off topic it is annoying when you know the history but you just caint convince the yokel infront of you that they are speaking of two diffrent things the ancient world did not have spring steel hence i thought you where comparing wootz to springsteel it is true it has a lower carbon content by desighn it makes it less likely to fracture under stress

I agree when i speak to laymen i just cringe and say damascus so they will understand me As impressive as this is buzzkill i would argue that by the time that billet is hand forged into sword shape it will be 1095 ish in final carbon content or it would be too brittle to make a good sword carbon is not evrything if it was we would see alloys listing 180 points of carbon in common useage today as we can control the process to a tee and a 35 ton heat comes out exactly as what we want

That would intrest me as well but it would support my earlier position that nanotubes or not it made no diffrence to the alloy at hand or i am sure we would be using it now as we can make nanotubes preety easily nowadays it would make an intresting read if you have a link frosty

xxxxxxxxx i did not think that was possible but hey with the right shaped charge you can do anything lol vulcan just used a hammer and godlike skill ..... where is the fun in that watch the language, even edited

That pretty much naild it will but i am sure thor knows all the finer points about the formation of vandium carbides in a iron matrix ok thst line was just total bull excrement but it sounded good Show him that d2 blade first he wil listen very carefully even if he dose not understand a word of it

Nope will i beg to differ i think said smith would soil thier nappy !!! Then beg for more i suppose the gist of my point would be that even a sword of modern 1060 is probably metalugicaly supirior to the best ulfbert ever made

Lol thanks frosty

As long as fools like me live in places where we have hard water borax will be sold

Thanks big gun doc you said it better

Well 800 years ago vs today the diffrence was simple damascus was steel from the area around damascus which is also known as wootz or crucible steel that we think was produced somwhere in persia aka modern day iran and traded pound for pound for gold at the time this was as close to a homogenious clean steel alloy as you would get everything else was pattern welded to some extent to make up for deficenties in infiorior metal that way you would have less chance of an invisible to the naked eye flaw causing a point of failure in a blade if the ancients ever saw 3 tons of 5160 spring stock just lying around they would have not only gawked at how bad xxxx a steel it was but probably fought a war over it even if wootz steel has nano tubes i have heard no evidence that this helps much it is still domthing between a modern 1075 and 1095 or maby a white paper steel but on ghe same token they where inpressed because here you have a single ingot weaighing 2 1/2 pounds or so that is all steel unlike a bloomery that gave you a mix of steel and other alloys mostly wroght iron and pig iron i work in a modern steel buisness where i regularly handle 2 ton plates that would have caused a war 800 years ago because they are one pure alloy through snd through look how far we have come baby look how far we have come Nothing drives home the scale of modern steel production like standing next to a stack of 10" x 8' x 12' plate steel long story short we pattern weld nowadays because it is pretty not because it improves funtion if you want to have a blade the ancients will drool over pick one of the modern superalloys and grind to shape ht and watch it cleave through damascus steel proper I know this post will start a war but i am ok with that i used to believe in ancient super steel too then i learnd modern metalergy and saw the light enjoy du

So this morning i tried heat again with cold parts no good i then thought to make a wiper plate as i was planning to do so anyway for punching heavier stock i could then in tgeroy use the press to pull it apart this did not work as the set screw in the press slipped first with only a gentile nudge so i tried jim's idea to use an air hammer next i did not need to weld a washer as the tool i had stuck was the top die for bending a right angle and i made it 3 1/2 inches wide just in case i need to bend somthing wider someday.. any way 30 + minutes of air hamnering later she finnaly broke free thanks jim and evryone else for the great ideas i cleaned up the tool holder and believe it or not the tool is still good too ground a few thosandths off the shank with the belt sander to make a nice loose fit and she is good as new. Thanks again

Well thanks for all the ideas maby after a night in my un heated shop it will break free i must sleep i will let you all know how it turns out tomorrow thanks again

Can they actually weld from being wedged ? I am at the 12 hr mark i tried heat at the 1 hr mark unsucessfuelly

I will have to try a wedge as the punch failed thanks for the new idea

I did not try it with the press i got stuck before that i was hand fitting the shaft into the tool holder the ram was locked in the up position the whole time That is why i am so confused i managed to get this stuck by hand the shaft was 1 1/4 the bore was 11/2 deep it should not be possible to bottom out eaither way I agree that would be bad i am trying to figure out how i managed to botch this while i was doing evreything to avoid the situation you just mentioned. I can see the distortion of the shaft as a posibility as to why it was a bit tight but that is why i did not trust it to use th press untill i had the tool all the way into the tool holder to the collar with an easy slip fit (or that was my goal ) before i got it stuck is it bossible the bore was taped narrower twards the end ? i guess i don' t know my own strength Thanks for your help du