Hey thanks guys, This about the same thing I've been getting in my search results. I found a few u-tube vids also. I'll figure out something, I guess. Looks like my fullering technique is going to get a workout, or something. So what do ya think, 8 - 10" long? Start with 1/4" round stock? Don't make use spring stock or an old rattail file. I think mild will be just fine,don't you? As always, thanks a bunch....... Dave