I'm not mad I just don't like someone telling me his family is going to have to take care of me for generations. I pay my taxes, I make a good living, I wasn't the one who made a personal attack. Guess I should tone down my sarcasm on the next post. Mod note: the only hint at any personal attack came from you not being able to admit your lack of welding skills may get some one killed. Personal attacks violate the IFI ToS. Some one pointed out your welding is bad, and when those fail anyone near they can get hurt or worse also this hobby has enough risk with out allowing an ego to get in the way of safety.