Steve Sells

Fron Friday knife chat, March 6, 2009 [steve sells] its funny 2 of the kids that are always asking about knives are now in the main chat, and they don't show up here either LOL [LDW] I just built a propane forge to use for hardening [garey] i have bewen working on a shobu. finger sanding the o-kissaki. slow going. [markb] LDW what type of temp control [LDW] I have an infra red gun that will read up to 1850 degrees [markb] what brand? [LDW] 1 I do not have a temp control I have always used coal [steve sells] : LDW you do have a control, the same one smiths have always used our MIND [garey] i go by gas PSI. [LDW] I got it at tooltopia its outside in my shed [steve sells] combined with eyes for color and that temp gun you have a better set up than early bladesmiths [markb] magic [garey] use a big magnet:) [steve sells] I have noticed with the walls I now have I am loosing less metal to scale with my forge welding, I assume I must have been over heating a lot outside, due to color variances... [LDW] I have to pull the steel out to get a reading, I have been using a magnet for the last 8 years [markb] what about temper temp? [LDW] then decided I needed to be at about 1550 degrees, and had to guess the next 135 or so degrees [steve sells] but that temp gun still helps cause you know you are close, and wont have much farther [garey] if it wont stick to a magnet its hot enough to quench to harden [markb] Seems to be a division low tech vs. hi tech [LDW] but my brother got a dern hardness tester and I feel like I am starting over [markb] What kind of tester LDW, Rockwell? [LDW] Its a hand held that tests for rockwell [garey] i have a harbour freight temp gun that works good. but still use the magnet. [LDW] I do not know exactly what you call it [markb] I've seen them on ebay? [LDW] Ricardo has it, [steve sells] how accurate is th HF temp gun ? [markb] Interested in a rockwell myself but need education [steve sells] files are $125 a set cover Hrc 40 to 65 IIRC the machine is 1600 last I checked [LDW] here is the one I got Mastercool (MSC52225B) [garey] i dont realy know Steve. havent figured a way to check it yet. [LDW] garey I just verified critical temp at about 1416 degrees and it seemed close [garey] i havent used the gun very much. was a B-day present from wife & son [steve sells] but ya had to guess tha last 135F? to get to 1550 ? [LDW] but if you point inside the flame is higher than that, how do you determine temp in your gasser [LDW] 95 percent of my knives are cable and I hate using propane for welding cable [garey] WAG ! wild xxxx guess [steve sells] I have not got mine lined yet, the shop build got in the way, I use a friends gasser, mainly I use coal forge [LDW] this will all be new for me [steve sells] I use color, and a magnet. I will be putting PID control on the 4 burner after I get it lined. [LDW] I welded up a cable knife at Terry Vandeventers a couple years ago in his propane forge and hits a bigger area than I like heated when welding. [garey] Terry the Snake DR? [LDW] yeah [steve sells] so I decided I want my own gasser for stuff like rolling out stock in the mill. [Cool Hand] Can you safely make a gasser from a turkey smoker and firebrick? [steve sells] a lot of fire brick forges my first gasser I used was a pile of bricks and a 3/4 side arm burner. as for smoker? I don't know. but if ya line it for forging it won be a good smoker any longer [Cool Hand] is there a decent bp to discuss making a first one? [Cool Hand] I used the wrong word, I shoulda said fryer, can I just used the burner on my fryer as a heat source [steve sells] I dont know... [Cool Hand] too long of a week to speak clearly.....lol [steve sells] what I do know is a forge burner is about 200,000 BTU most fryers are 65,000 [Cool Hand] that answers my question quite effectively, thank you. I will, I wasn't aware the temp of the average gasser [steve sells] 2,500F is plenty, but post in the forum, I don't know much about gas forges. really. Frosty is one what seems to know a lot, and I am positive there are others too [Cool Hand] pm: will do [garey] BP # 192 gas forge [Cool Hand] thank you Garey [steve sells] garey is da MAN [LDW] Steve, I think ther is something like 95000 btu per hour in a gallon of propane.

You could DIE with enough exposure. Look a few lines above this post, there are a few sticky;s on it.

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if you say so. Pattern welded steel and bronze, which is Tin and copper. pattern welded blade with bronze - Blacksmith Photo Gallery

Borne101 you didn't, I moved it here for you, we try to keep "like things" all in the same place, as its easier for others to find them when they have these questions that way. Just one more service we offer here from the staff of I Forge Iron.

I suggest you start learning about basic blacksmithing first, and forget knives for a while. You have been posting many very basic questions, which imply's you are just beginning. A knife is not an easy first project, Learning how to move metal in the forge should be a first project. Look through the forums, and the sticky's. Read all you can. There are already many things posted on the information you require. Then ask questions about what you can not find.

Fred Odin, Bill Wyant, Jim Hrisoulas, Terry Moran have been the biggest in my smithing journey. thanks Guys.

many good brands are multi piece, peter wright for one. some good brands were even 5 pieces welded up.

red hot,? not hot enough for good forging, but it was hot enough to soften it, What did you use to get it that hot ?

You have a very good attitude about this, I am impressed. Forgiveness is a virtue. But remember if you let him walk away free and clear, he wont learn anything, and will continue to hurt others. Correction, not revenge is the correct thought. By the same token, don't let the assault change your heart. You have an excellent view of what this really is. Your parents should be proud of your being smart enough to have these feelings for Him, and his actions.

Blacksmith Groups Forum - BAWA at IForgeIron.com is full of Oz members, its a lot closer to you, with more common resources, than most of the rest of us. Also http://www.iforgeiron.com/forum/f8/oz-roll-call-7380/ is a listing of OZ smiths. Add you name and ask there, you may have a member down the road from you! Welcome to I Forge Iron.

I would not quench in water until after you try oil and see where that leaves you, It may be enough. Some alloys won't like water, and if the hammers(s) are in one of the groups of oil quenching steel, they will let you know in a bad way. Not all hammers are made of the same material. even from the same maker.

Except electrical wires, even Romex, I can always tell an amateur when I see the spiraling wire, those need to be un-rolled :)

to re-tip at the break is fine, but do not weld, it still dangerous. Illegal in competition, and unsafe for controlled moves as well, a slip and....

welcome to I Forge Iron, I appears that you are off to a good start. Don't be shy about asking questions. If ya don't know, just ask and some one in the forums will most likely know about it, and share it with you.

Welcome, but I agree, keep them both. You will understand why later.

Welcome to I Forge Iron, plenty going on around here. glad you have ya.

Jeremiah, that all depends on if you want to keep the barn, you may want to either clean them up, or stock up on hot dogs.

We have 5 sticky's that not only explane everything you have asked, but include references to over 50 other resourced for further reading.

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Welcome to I Forge Iron. I am sure Finnr can point you to the local group up there.

Welcome to I Forge Iron, we have members fro al over, pop in the chat sometime if you want to ask questions and get to know a few of us.

I never said that Dan Fogg didn't know, I said the statement of hi/low carbon content of layers in a pattern welded blade was in error. I simply disagree about spreading false information, no matter the reason. No matter the degree or person writing it, either my statement is factual or not. Maybe I am taking this too hard.

sounds yummy, pass the BBQ sauce please...

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