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About downsfish

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    Birmingham, Al.


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    Helena, Al.
  • Biography
    Married 24 yrs, 1 boy 21 and 3 girls,18,16,14. Raised in San Diego then moved to Ut,Ill,Fl,Al.
  • Interests
    I was a stone mason for 20 yrs. Now I'm a Millwright 4 yrs. Next a blacksmith ?
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    millwright, (rebar)steel mill
  1. So did you get it finished? Where are the pics/video? I also live just south of Birmingham, I've HT'd a couple of anvils I built on nightshift at the Steel Mill where I work. Do you still need the help.
  2. Typically to start a new Hobbie/Trade you have to purchase the tools, equipment, materials required to perform it. This is really the only Hobbie/Trade where you could start with someones discarded trash and make the tools you need to make the tools to accomplish your intended goal. The awesome part is that the entire time you're building up the tool set, you're actually performing the Hobbie/Trade. It just doesn't get any better than that.
  3. Love the anvil stand, love the REBAR tongs (for reasons other than aesthetics), and mostly I love to see your daughter out with her old man playing in the shop, keep it up dood.
  4. I thought I'd cut some 2" plate about 4" X 12" and weld them under the anvil at 90 deg, one close to the hardy hole and one at the pritchels. That would automatically give me 3 pads with 90 deg V blocks about 4" square two on the near side and only one on the far, because the shelf I welded on at the face would be directly above the one. I guess the far side should be left plain for upsetting and probably 4 different half rounds 2 on each of the near sides? I only used the mill to clean up the face and drill the holes, the tapers and the horn were all torch cut before the heat treat. The steel would've become high grade rebar but it had too much Cr, and Van in it which would make it too hard so it was scrapped.
  5. OK so I'm building my second anvil and I'd like some design input, kinda like you helped Grant with his "Tooling Anvil ?". It started life as a 5 1/2" X 5 1/2" billet 3 feet long and I'd planned on putting feet under it for upsetting like Hofi's anvils. So here's the question, what do you think about making the feet with different bottom dies like a swage block? What do you think would be the most versitile shapes?
  6. Update: I finally got around to heat-treating it last night with pretty good results, they're not exactly what I expected though. I soaked it in the furnace for about 2 1/2 hours, then pulled it out and threw it in the water flume (which is flowing substantial water) and viola. Well kinda, actually when I threw it in it got hung up on the chain and just the tip (4 inchs) of the horn went in the water. So I unhooked it and laid it in the water on it's side, about 6" deep, which left the welded on part poking up out of the water. I then turned an 1 1/2" water hose on the top side because it didn't have much water covering it. Looking at the RHC #'s I've put on with soapstone you can see that the softer side and the ends were well under the water and the harder side (except for the step ?) got the hose.
  7. I work maintenance in a roll mill and this is a common occurance, maybe an average of 3 or 4 times in a 12 hour shift, depending mostly on what size is running. The smaller the product the harder it is to get it to the end, the difference between pushing a rope or a spaghetti noodle. Every set of rolls it goes through reduces it's diameter by maybe 10 to 20 percent, but that material has to go somewhere, so it grows in length. Which means it also picks up speed by that same 10 to 20 percent every millstand it goes through, in our mill there's 18 millstands. The 5-1/2" billet enters #1 at about 2 mph and exits #18 as a 180' long railroad spike 1600 degrees travelling about 40+ mph. So as you can imagine that it doesn't take a much of problem to cause a cobble. I would guess that an average cobble takes about 30 min to clean up and get back to running, not a very fun part of the process.
  8. Update: I ended up with a torch after trying many different ways to remove the drift, it wasn't as bad as i thought it would be and i didn't damage the anvil. I'd rather be lucky than good. So the hole is square about 3" down, then turns back to round. A little bit of clean up to the face and I'll be ready to heat treat, then I'll weld on a couple of feet, which will be two pieces of billet about 12" long welded crossways with a gap between, so that I'll have a place to upset with. It should end up about 300 lbs. and look like Mr. Hofi's.
  9. Hey man I like em, I love to see rebar being used.
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    Hey Matt, that's pretty cool I'll have to play with the whole ?electrolysis? thing. I know a lot of guys use it to etch but it looks like cleans real well also. Your pics are too big, next time re-size them and they look better. Glad to see you here Bro.
  11. hey bubba. ck out my vise post. electrolysis

  12. I'm in Alabama which is only a stones throw away from him (somewhere in MS). I'm sure like everything else in life when i finally save up enough to buy some of his time he'll have moved. When I have the money I don't have the time. When I have the time I don't have the money.
  13. Amen brothers, THAT is a VICE
  14. I’m with Bob, “new steel” I guess would be smelted iron ore from the ground, nearly all steel today is made from scrap. It is cheaper, easier, faster, safer, more convenient, better for the environment, etc. Once a car/refrigerator/bicycle/lawnmower/broken wrench becomes liquid they’ve definitely lost their former identities and become “steel”. At this point it’s easy to separate the impurities and add whatever is needed to create any type of steel required. I work at a steel mill where about 85% of our finished product is rebar; some of it is poor quality by the customer’s request. But by far the majority is good steel going for things like DOT projects, Nuclear, Wind Turbines, etc. that must meet certain specs. Each Mill puts identifying marks on their finishing rolls, so every revolution that mark is made on the bar, the distance between marks depends on the size of the roll, about 3 feet is our average. Here’s a link that explains it pretty well. http://www.dot.state.il.us/materials/rebarguide.pdf
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