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  1. There are enough sources of air available at little or no cost that you should have no problems in the air department.



    Bwilloughby came up with a novel approach for his air problem by converting a HVAC whole house furnace fan to a blower for his forge.



    Jim Carothers solved his air problem in another direction, by using what the neighbor threw into the trash. You will have to look up BP0128 Forge Blower to find out what he started with to get the fan :wink: I am sure there is at least one available very close to your location LOL.

    Both of these will move a LOT more air than you need for a solid fuel forge. Plan on venting, diverting, or using a valve of some sort to keep the excess air away from the forge. Hint: A fellow could put a "Y" or "T" in the air line and use the excess air to cool the blacksmith.



    But do not overlook the little blowers that still a LOT of air for their size. This one was recycled from a junk yard and has been in service over two years. It puts out too much air for my forge and I vent the excess.

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    If you had a big kitchen table you, some scrap wood, and a little canvas, you could just build your own bellows. :D See BP0127 Bellows

    An old hair dryer, vacumn cleaner on the blow side, and lots of other things have been used. You need to find out what is available in your area and put it into service making air.



  2. These are the 3 hammers Whitesmith uses, a 2 pound store bought hammer, maybe 1-3/4 pound hand made Irnsrgn hammer, and a Swedish 800 g. hammer. He will usually goes for the middle one of the 3 shown. The Swedish is new to him and he is still trying to find a use for it. :wink:
  3. Archie
    To aid in your finding the right combination of air volumn and grate hole size, I took photos of the air holes in 3 forges. I have included a AA battery for size comparison, and a ruler measurement.

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    This is a brake drum 13 inches diameter. It gets enough air through the holes and works well.


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    This is a piece of cast iron 4 inches diameter. The holes are larger and it works better as it gets more air through the larger holes.


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    This is to give you a size comparison between the two fire pots. One easily fits inside the other. The other grate is 2-1/2 inch exhaust pipe from a automobile with 2 pieces of 1/4 inch round for the grate. It is the grate from the 55 Forge. All air supply tubes are either 2-1/4 or 2-1/2 inches in diameter, and all use the same small electric squirrel cage blower for air. The fan and air pipe are not connected to each other and air flow is regulated by how much air blast is aimed at the pipe leading from the fan to the forge.

    Each fireball is a bit different and the forge is chosen for the job at hand. Big forge for big projects, small forge for small projects, big forge for long heats 6 to 8 inches, small forge for 3 to 4 inches. Play with things till you find a combination that works for you.

  4. Archie, I missed the part about this being a school project, and being at the request of the teacher.

    The folks on the forum will try to assist with anything blacksmithing related, and assist with subjects that are unrelated to metal. They are a good group of people and very knowledgable.

    Non-blacksmithing is for anything not directly related to blacksmithing or metal working. It is just a way to separate the subjects. It was the place for the post, just that the post did not fit the forum.

    Thank you for withdrawing the request.
    Glenn

  5. Archie
    May I respectfully request that you terminate the subject of your quest as it concerns this forum. This forum's purpose is to gather and exchange information on blacksmithing, metal working, and related topics. Cautionary children's tales where a nasty horrible child is wholly consumed and dies, is just NOT related to the format.

    To use "scare tatics" on a child whether in a story, as a parent, or as an adult, is a poor decision, in my opinion. I see no reason, or benifit, to scare a child with bodily harm or death. They are at a very impressionable age, developing their personality, and their mental health, that will take them through life. Positive reinforcment, working closely with the child so they achieve success, working to insure they achieve success, and congradulating and bragging on their success, will always go a lot further to building the childs character, personality, and mental health.

    But that is my opinion, and the method I have tried to use when raising my children. Those things (children) unfortunately do not come with owners manuals, and we as parents each have to do what we think is best in raising our child. They give us 21 or so years to accomplish the task and then declare the child an adult and allow them to then make their own decisions, continuing the process of life. Different parents do things differently when dealing with children, and that is their choice.


    We do have at least one childrens tale on the IForgeIron site. The "Y" Rule is a true story, as I was there.
    IForgeIron.com > Stories > The "Y" Rule.

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    Archie has the privledge of asking the question, but I ask others that if they wish to continue the discussion, please realign the topic to whether the subject is approprate for this forum. As the topic is one I consider sensetative, please use extreme caution in your posts to keep them on the subject at hand - the subject now being "is it approprate for this forum".

    Thank you.

  6. Wishwon,
    I have edited your post to remove the quote referring to the post imediatley above your reply. The quote is unnecessary as we just read what you are quoting and there is usually no need to read it again.

    If your reply refers to a comment made 3 or 4 posts back, please use the quotes to refresh our memory on what is being addressed. Not the entire post, but just the specific subject.

    Please do not take this personally in any way, it is just trying to make the forum flow a little better as it is being read. Thank you for your cooperation and please continue to post as often as you wish.
    Glenn

  7. Rick,
    I have edited your posts to remove the quotes referring to the post imediatley above your reply. The quote is unnecessary as we just read what you are quoting and there is usually no need to read it again.

    If your reply refers to a comment made 3 or 4 posts back, please use the quotes to refresh our memory on what is being addressed. Not the entire post, but just the specific subject.

    Please do not take this personally in any way, it is just trying to make the forum flow a little better as it is being read. Thank you for your cooperation and please continue to post as often as you wish.
    Glenn

  8. When KeenJumk closed, Sparkie set up Forgemagic with the same look and feel of the old KeenJunk site. Many of the regulars to KeenJunk moved to Forgemagic.

    I have contacted Sparkie many times on many different subjects. IForgeIron has a link to Forgemagic on it's links page. Since Forgemagic opened, I have referred folks to Forgemagic when they are looking for the old KeenJumk site. I have posted to Forgemagic and continue to support the site with referrals.

    Forgemagic is an running list of comments forum, where information and personal comments are intertwined. The BlacksmithingForum is organized by threads and subjects and is information based. Both styles are good, just different.

    Sparkie and Forgemagic has it's own guide lines for posting, and I can not post them here as they may change, as that is Sparkie's choice and Forgemagic is his site. You will need to visit Forgemagic.com for that information.

    The Blacksmith forum is a family site and the guide lines are posted on the site. The guide lines are posted on the subject "keeping you informed" or http://www.blacksmithforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=166

    As far as cool blacksmithing sites goes, it is NOT a contest. You DO NOT have to decide which is better. I suggest you visit both.

    BlacksmithForum is part of IForgeIron.com

  9. type in your text to the point you need to put in an image

    click "img" box, enter the URL for the photo on the web, and click "img" box again. it chould look like this in your posting box.


    but without the --- at the beginning and end. also no spaces.

    When you do it right, the program goes to the URL you gave and retrives and inserts the photo, like this.

    This image is 200 pixels wide.

    You can use the www.iforgeiron.com/gallery to post the photo. This places your photo in the IForgeIron Gallery and I will go there my self, get the photo, fix it if need, resize it to the maximum 400 pizels wide needed for this forum and edit it into your post.

    Or you can use www.yourimg.com as a posting service as a place to park your photo on the web.

    IF you do not resize the photo before posting to a maximum of 400 pizels wide or tall, which ever is greater, it may be too large for for the forum and cause problems. This information is also on the Forum under a thread of how to post images or sothing like that.

    Try it and see if you can make it work with the URL http://www.blacksmithforum.com/photo/blacksmithing/fire04.jpg You can preview your post to see if it works before you submit. Once submitted, you can still edit the post, you just have to click "edit" top right of your posted topic. That will take you back to the "post a reply" screen so you can fix things.

    As the administrator, I can usually correct any mistakes you will make. I have made enough of my own learning this software, so I am almost good at fixing things at this point. :? You will make mistakes and that is expected. It is not a problem, but part of the learning process.

  10. Coal, to many people, is a black rock that sometimes can be burned. To a blacksmith, it is the fuel used in the forge to heat the metal, and comes in two varieties, good and bad. Coal seams are fossilized accumulations of plants which lived and died in swamps that were so devoid of oxygen that few microbes or other critters could survive to feed on their remains. The first phase of coal known as "peat" thus developed. These swamps were interwoven with intricate, meandering river channels which eventually covered things with mud and silt. Subsequent deep burial by more sediments in succeeding geologic ages resulted in heat and pressure which transformed the peat into coal. Generally speaking, every 12 inches of coal thickness represents approximately 10,000 years of continuous peat accumulation.

    Coke is coal with the volitals (smoke) burned off.

    Charcoal is wood with the volitals (smoke) burned off.

    A wood burning stove is a device to contain a wood fire that is used to heat a living or work space, home or shop. If the doors are able to be "sealed" in the closed position, usually with a gasket, they are considered air tight. Air is allowed into the fire by small holes covered with an adjustment. The air flow is adjusted to control the burn rate of the fire.

    A 3 wheeled car? This may be an European model but I do not recall seeing one here. There are some folks that combine a Volkswagon motor, axle, and wheels with the frame and front half of a motorcycle. I have seen a few of those. :)


    Reference material : BP0051 Good Coal

  11. . .

    This the quick version of the now famous 55 Forge.

    BOOM is NOT a nice noise and cutting the drum can be dangerous with explosive results. Have some one else cut it for you - and do not stand close while they do the cutting.

    The pan is 6" from the end of a 55 gallon drum, the twyere is a section of exhaust pipe from an atuomobile welded into a "T" (standard pipe and pipe fitings work just as well), and the grate is 2 pieces of 1/4" round stock. The photo is for demonstration purposes. You may add clay or sand to the bottom of the forge for insulate the bottom of the pan from the fire. Ashes were used with this forge.

    This is not a permenant forge, but one that can get you started. Work safely at all times and keep any fire maintained and under control. When they send the big red trucks full of water to your location, sirens screaming, the fire is NOT considered under control. Use caution at all times.

    A side blast version of the 55 Forge is shown on thread "Forging Trouble" in the blacksmithing section. The same pan is used, but the twere is a bit simplier in the side draft version.
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    This is the now famous 55 Forge but with a side blast set up. The idea is the same for most any solid fuel forge.

    Wad up a couple of sheets of newspaper and set them ablaze. Add some sticks from the yard, add some air, add some coke/coal to the top, more air, and start forging.

    After a little practice, and when the yard has been picked clean of sticks, you can skip the sticks and go straight from paper to coke,coal.


    BOOM is NOT a nice noise and cutting the drum can be dangerous with explosive results. Have some one else cut it for you - and do not be close while they do the cutting.

    Cost of the forge:
    One end from a 55 gallon drum, plow disk, flat plate, wooden box with sand, etc
    A section of 1" pipe
    An air supply
    Solid fuel.

    This is not a permenant forge, but one that can get you started. Work safely at all times and keep any fire maintained and under control. When they send the big red trucks full of water to your location, sirens screaming, the fire is NOT considered under control. :? Use caution at all times.
  13. The events on this thread have not gone without my notice.

    The site is set up as a way to exchange information. If we can provide many different ways to do something, the viewer can choose which is best in his situation, or combine different ideas into a workable solution.

    Thank you Irnsrgn, Ed Thomas, Strine, Anon_smith, Tom Stovall, Sandpile, R.Smith, Mike-hr, and John Outlaw (indirectly) for assisting with the question. That is 9 (nine) folks kind enough to take time to help solve a problem. There have been over 500 views of the topic and I hope those viewers have also benefited by the information provided.
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    When the forum was set up, I ask moderators to keep it clean, no "bad words", no personal attacks, and it sould be able to be read from the front of the church on Sunday with no one being embarrassed.

    All moderators have acted on my behalf, and in what they thought were the best interests of the site. I therefore take the responsibility for their actions, as I gave them the authority to act in my absence.

    After much thought, and seeking the counsel and wisdom of others, I will personally take full responsibility for keeping the site a family site and a clean site.

    The site is a family site, not family friendly, not family oriented, not family (insert your adjective here), but a family site. The standards are set high. You are expected to conduct yourselves as gentlemen and ladies. Your posts are to be civil, polite, and respectful of others and their opinions. There are to be no "bad words", no personal attacks, and it should be able to be read from the front of the church on Sunday with no one being embarrassed.

    The site is a way to exchange information. You may question or comment as you wish within these guide lines, additional guide lines added as needed, the rules of registration, and any disclaimers.

    I charge each of you with assisting me in keeping the site a family site, a clean site, and operating within the guidelines set forth. I do not expect any problems, but if they were to occur, please contact me directly with your concerns.

    Glenn

  14. You NEED to put a "T" in the air line. Otherwise hot coals will fall down into the air pipe and burn internally causing the pipe to melt. The "T" should be placed high close to the fire so you do not block the air flow. As the down tube will fills with ash, clinker, and junk, it needs to be cleaned out.

    A butterfly valve in the air line to the forge will help control the fire. A second air line can be fabricated to the blower and aimed at the blacksmith to help keep him cool while at work.

    You also need to cover about 1/3 of the intake to the fan. It is sucking too much air. Throttled down, it then reduces the load on the motor and the motor doesn't overheat. There is a formula on how much amperage the motor should pull before overheating, but I do not have that information.

    Congradulations on completing the forge project. Now, to play in the fire. :D

  15. So everyone has a chance to participate, and to have those going to SOFA (Sept 24,25) able to contribute, we will ask that all leaves be in the mail by October 1, 2005.




    Spread the word far and wide that everyone is encouraged to participate.

    Put all leaves in the mail by October 1, 2005.

  16. Leaves for Jim Wilson

    As a tribute to Jim Wilson, we are collecting hand made leaves to assemble into an art piece, and presented to his wife Sheri. Everyone is welcome to contribute.

    Leaf design and size if of your choice. Please leave a long stem on the leaf so it can be shortened before attachment. (It can be cut shorter much easier than it can be made longer)

    If you would like to make two or three leaves, that will provide an opportunity to add volumn to the project if needed. Marks are not a requirement, but if you have a touchmark, add it or your initials to the leaf.

    If you have ideas on a design into which the leaves can be incorporated, please pass it along. A decision will be made later, depending on the amount of leaves on hand, as to how they will be used, whether in an art piece, a table, a gate, sections in a railing, or whatever.


    Send your leaf or leaves and design ideas to:

    IForgeIron/Glenn Conner
    607 Crestview Drive
    Big Chimney, WV 25302-4415


    Spread the word far and wide that everyone is encouraged to participate.
    Put all leaves in the mail by October 1, 2005. This date will allow the folks at SOFA (sept 24, 25) to participate also.

  17. Let the PPW leaf making begin.

    As a tribute to Jim Wilson, we are collecting hand made leaves to assemble into an art piece, and presented to his wife Sheri. Everyone is welcome to contribute.

    Leaf design and size if of your choice. Please leave a long stem on the leaf so it can be shortened before attachment. (It can be cut shorter much easier than it can be made longer)

    If you would like to make two or three leaves, that will provide an opportunity to add volumn to the project if needed. Marks are not a requirement, but if you have a touchmark, add it or your initials to the leaf.


    If you have ideas on a design into which the leaves can be incorporated, please pass it along. A decision will be made later, depending on the amount of leaves on hand, as to how they will be used, whether in an art piece, a table, a gate, sections in a railing, or whatever.


    Send your leaf or leaves and design ideas to:

    IForgeIron/Glenn Conner
    607 Crestview Drive
    Big Chimney, WV 25302-4415

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