Brazer Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Has anyone made one of these crosses, or know how it is done? I would like to make one but cannot seem to get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo7 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Look up Fredericks Cross, make the cuts go further past then normal then twist arms. At a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 I tried that with clay and even paper, but it doesn't seem to come out right. I made a Frederick's Cross, but somehow I can't get them to fold over like the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Greetings Brazer, Maybe this will help.. Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Greetings to you Jim. I got that already, and I need to figure how to tuck and fold which side through . I cut long slits after making the cross, but I want it to look like the one in the picture. It looks real neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Take a piece of paper , cut it and tape it together like the cross pictured, then refold it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Thanks BigGundoctor. I'll try that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo7 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 When you tried it with clay did you twist all 4 "arms" 180deg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Thanks Turbo. I was trying to pass one end through, when all I needed to do was twist the ends the right way. I comes out pretty good. The clay kept breaking, but you got the right idea. When I get it perfected, I will do it in iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigb Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 So do you make a regular split cross first then twist each arm 180 degrees in the same direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 yes. It seemed to look right in clay, but the clay doesn't stretch like the iron should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo7 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Try lifting the curves (twisty bits) up so they are in a different plane to the arms, tap them back down when in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo7 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Had a crack at it, need to punch the bends out first, and don't twist it the wrong way mate -) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 That was easy now wasn't it. It was a real challenge to figure out, but you did it Turbo7. It would be nice on a larger scale, but over 1" stock is a little much, to be twisting in 2 hands with tongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo7 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Excuse the break, poor workmanship. 1" stock you would want a good monkey wrench on it I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Got that right. I wonder how many smiths actually do this type of variation on cross. By the way I just got up here, it's 3:18 am mountain time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankySmith Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Ohhhh, I really gotta try that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 I didn't think this was going to be such a challenging project. I just wanted to know how it was done. Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Thanks for embracing the challenge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Well I figure after this thread a whole lot of smiths will be making them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Well everyone has to have a challenge once in a while. I am pleased with the response on the unique Cross. I'm finishing up 6 roses for a few customers. Then I'll make the Cross in iron, if I can. You learn from mistakes and challenge yourself to do something that's different. Can't always do the same stuff. Each time I do things over and over, I do get better. It's amazing, for me, to see how much you can force a piece of metal to go where you want to. Hot metal and a hammer calms me down. Some folks go to a gym for weights, get a hammer and see how much better you feel after a day at the forge and anvil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibor Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 These beautiful crosses !!!!... In general the cross is a large scope for cross-armed, swastika, triple cross-Trykwestr ipt ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueRugger Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Turbo7: how much longer for the cuts do you think is necessary / helpful ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazer Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 I found that using clay they were longer than necessary. I will find out in steel. If you look at the original picture I posted, they appear long in relation to the length and width of cross. Experiment is what I will do to get it right. I have no idea how many times I will have to make them, to get it looking right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo7 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I reckon you could get it down to 2 1/4 x the width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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