Anachronist58 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Yep Charles, if it budges an inch, it's >mine<. I always try to keep ropes and beers on hand, but don't drink em whilst in process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Just now, Anachronist58 said: I always try to keep ropes and beers on hand, but don't drink em whilst in process. Drinking ropes is never a good idea. It might be tricky getting the crane out into the woods, but the method in this video looks like a lot of fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothBore Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 5/20/2016 at 3:12 PM, JHCC said: Drinking ropes is never a good idea. Of course not, ... you smoke rope ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Well, it helps to know the ropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsoldat Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 A couple of bicycle wheels and a piece of treaded rod. tie the rail to the axle near the balance point and wheel it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anachronist58 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Gnaw, the beer soaked rope, I'm no dope. With some good PPE, a nice chair, and some refreshments, I could watch that mag lift all day! Great video. Too bad there's nothing overhead to attach block & tackle (come-along) to . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Why lift? A bit of digging, and even if one has to tie off your tackle to trees you can skid it out of their. I've done some pretty stupid things over the years with wheel barrows, apliance trucks and kids wagons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.morse Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 How old does a rail have to be to be wrought? My son found a narrow-gauge rail a couple years ago. It was from the last era of White Pine logging in the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. It was from the 1880-1915 timeframe. I myself know of some rail from 100 years ago....also logging rail. I'm curious what it would be worth if wrought, and how would you market/sell it....chunks, pieces, whole rail????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Go to google and look up "wrought iron spark test". Pricing depends on how much you want to profit and your expenses. Littleblacksmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 53 minutes ago, j.morse said: How old does a rail have to be to be wrought? My son found a narrow-gauge rail a couple years ago. It was from the last era of White Pine logging in the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. It was from the 1880-1915 timeframe. I myself know of some rail from 100 years ago....also logging rail. I'm curious what it would be worth if wrought, and how would you market/sell it....chunks, pieces, whole rail????????? According to this site, steel trail was introduced in Pennsylvania in 1863 and by 1890 was used in about 80% of all lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTodtman Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 On 2016-05-18 at 7:23 AM, j.morse said: I recently bought a RR tool at an estate sale. It is basically a cold cut-off hardy with a long handle. I had no idea what I had until a RR worker on another forum told me. It was used to score a line all around a rail. Then said rail was dropped on another rail right at the line scored. It would, according to the RR guy, snap the scored rail cleanly. I have not tried it. When I was young I worked on the Canadian Pacific Railway on a section gang in the Columbia River Valley in the British Columbia rockies. I saw it done that way. Actually, I do not recall the 'drop the rail thing.' I recall scoring the rail all around and then sledging the hardy hard on top of the rail to make the cut. By the way, a whole length of rail--of the older type--is 33' long. Rail was referred to by its weight; all the rail on our section was 125lb rail (125 lbs per foot). The old guys on the section gang really knew how to use jacks and lever arms to move that heavy rail around. All our work was out in the boonies and any sort of crane was absolutely unheard of. At the time I was fresh out of university and thought I knew everything. The guys on the section gang taught me I really didn't. I appreciated that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedefiddle Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Good Morning, Rail is 10 Yards long, 33 Ft. Rail is measured, by weight, per yard. 125 lbs. Rail is, 125 lbs. per Yard Yes, there are many sizes of Rail. Some say Rail is 1095, I am not sure though. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 If I found that in the woods and had to have a piece, I would drag my small torch set out there on a RAINY day when everything is well soaked and cut it. First I would determine how long it actually was as it might be moveable as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 The official specs for rail have been posted here before why guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Yard is 3 feet, so that would be 11 yards, meters are 3.2 feet and some, so 10 meters and a hair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anachronist58 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) Yep pounds per yard, as verified for my own curiosity from these four "specimens" (although at times I have been accused of talking softly to them a petting them - absurd!). Robert Taylor Edited June 6, 2016 by Anachronist58 addendum, clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRTim Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 There's old rail like that all around me and I see people taking it all the time. I personally use a Milwaukee cordless bandsaw to cut all kinds of rail. I got it at Home Depot it's nothing special. If the rail is to big I dig under it or if I can I put a car jack under it and block it up. With old rail like that it's much easier to cut. In fact they cut it on spot with no tools a real long time ago. This is how they did it.. Take a cold chisel and mark a clean line around the track. Then take a good size sledge hammer and hit your mark. That's it, it will snap and much easier than you'd ever think! Back in the day they'd mark the rail with a chisel and drop it onto another piece of track and the rail would snap clean. That's how it was done with old track. They didn't have power tools out there on site back then. All you have to do is mark and snap it. New track you can't do that. New track is steel old track is iron. Steel track will not snap! I'm in Pa and there's tons of old Pa RR track around and that's even today how they remove it. So just snap it if you don't have a cordless bandsaw. People think way to much into cutting rail and it's really not that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jona Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I have a 5' piece of railroad track with Carnegie's name on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Jona, welcome aboard from 7500' in SE Wyoming. Glad to have you. Carnegie Steel made LOTS of railroad Track starting in about 1892. Most of it was used in the eastern US. "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 When I was in high school, I had a job working on a crew that repaired small sections of railroad track that had issues. It was a tough job, but I learned a lot. The mainline sections were 165 lbs. per 3 feet. The older track was not as large as what they use today. We used to cut it with a gas-powered chop saw, but as others have said, you have to be very mindful of sparks, as it will definitely catch the woods on fire. I've seen it. If I couldn't drag it out with a tractor or something, I would cut it with a cordless bandsaw. If I didn't have that, I would cut it with a small torch rig. If I didn't have that, I'd probably just sit on it and drink a beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 A well-formulated decision tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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