SReynolds Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 The blacksmith supply sells tool steels. It's what folks buy to make tools I am told and nothing more. They really don't know. They just sell it. Is one better than the other for pritchels? H13 for hot work like creaser and pritchel right? and S 7 for a hardie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 The hardy I made was 1050 from an old jackhammer bit; so far it's lasted 20 years; maybe I'll try a fancy steel for the next one---if I live that long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 H-13 ad S-7 are good for what they're designed for but they're a BEAR to work and take pretty darned precise heat treatment. For the most part I have good luck with struck tools made from medium carbon steels. Just plain old steel works a treat. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 That one real popular blacksmith who teaches class and posts YouTube videos working 1"round stock like it is 3/8 ; Brian .....? Says to make hardies from mild steel. I was trying to get an idea why they have two tool steels. I buy pritchels and that's the way to go. I dont have to buy the tool steel of proper alloy and THEN work it into something. They don't even know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmangeler Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I like H13 better it seems like I have better results with my low quality heat treatments. I think the tempering is more critical with the S7. They both work well for pritchels, they are both more forgiving when you let them get too hot then say a less costly 10xx steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Hardies I've always used what ever Jack Hammer bit was available. driven punches I use cheap import sets for non critical sizes. Hot work carving or exact hole dimensions I use H13 because I can forge or grind thinner and more precisely with the expectation tool will hold its shape. I have also spoiled more than one piece of H13 by over heating while forging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 As a horseshoer, I used to make all my pritchels out of S1. It oil hardening and is a good hot-work steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 The store is a farrier supply. Folks call folks who shoe horses a blacksmith. Go to the horse track. Locate the building on backstretch labeled Blacksmith. It ain't a guy making knives or candle cups. I don't agree but I cant change it. So anywhoo. The store is a farrier supply and they ain't sellin' S1 so it must not agree with them and locals must not like it. But, I respect your reply and hope in time I can try out all the popular tool steels for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Bet Frank has been in the business longer than that store has! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Likely so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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