arkie Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 This may seem a minor thing, but yesterday I needed some small rivets in a hurry, about 1/8" diameter or so. Looked around and found some 3" duplex 16 penny nails just the right size (they are actually 3/16"). I didn't want to loose a small piece of thin rod in the firepot or burn it up, so I decided to use them. They have a thicker end-head than most nails, really suitable for one "ready-made" head on a rivet. Just quickly grind or file off the extra "head" on the shank, cut to length, insert in the workpiece and hammer the cut end for the second head. I heated mine, but some may just hammer it cold. Worked like a charm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pault17 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 nice idea... and all this time I was just using them to forge out mini swords for the little people that constantly ask if I can make a sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankySmith Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Amazingly I did that exact thing this weekend. Rivet I wanted to use was just a bit short, so I also pressed a duplex into service! Small world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Best thing I like about using the nails is that you don't have to futz around making the first head. nice idea... and all this time I was just using them to forge out mini swords for the little people that constantly ask if I can make a sword. I'd like to see your mini knives!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankySmith Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I only messed around with the tiny swords once, here's a photo I took to show a friend the process. I originally thought I'd have them out on a craft table for sale, then I got visions of ME as a kid stabbing someone in the eye/ear/butt/leg etc and quickly decided I didn't want angry mom and dad's coming back to my table with a tiny sword sticking out of a body part. :o They're easy to make, literally like two hammer strikes and you're done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottMitUns Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Dang it Spanky and Paul,,,now I have to try that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironmike Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Nice tiny swords, Spanky ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankySmith Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Hey, as Paul said, now we can say, "why yes...yes I can make a sword for you!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinobi Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 get some multicolored thread and use that to make a wrap for the hilt, 'seal' with superglue :) nails pressed into service as rivets seem to be an international solution to the riveting question, see if you can find that video of Haitian (IIRC) metalworkers making stoves from sheet metal, they were cutting the heads off nails to rivet the structure together and using nuts as bolsters for hole punching and the like. really interesting video! its been posted up here at least once in the last couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 I only messed around with the tiny swords once, here's a photo I took to show a friend the process. I originally thought I'd have them out on a craft table for sale, then I got visions of ME as a kid stabbing someone in the eye/ear/butt/leg etc and quickly decided I didn't want angry mom and dad's coming back to my table with a tiny sword sticking out of a body part. :o They're easy to make, literally like two hammer strikes and you're done. Those are pretty novel! I see what you mean about two hammer blows...and the potential problem with the kiddos. UGH Maybe those can be used for "blacksmithing acupuncture" :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Little hand forged mixed drink swords/ :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Great stuff. How many times have we been asked "Can you make a dagger/sword/spear??" The answer is there all the time.But hey, what are these two-headed nail things?? I have never seen anything like them. What are they used for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankySmith Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 they're typically used to make concrete forms - makes removing the nails and reusing the wood very easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashelle Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Stateside they are called duplex nails. They do make neat rivets and swords, but then I normally just make my own rivets out of the appropriate size stock as needed anyways. I used to keep a handful in my bag for demos. Due to the inevitable can you have you will you make me a sword questions. Silly me now has several mini swords sitting on the TV stand, heehee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironwolfforgeca Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 LOL I like the Idea I have to throw a hand full in the tool bag now that will answer that pesky little ? of can you make a sword SO anyone shoe a horse with them yet :rolleyes: the other pesky little ? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I found out that those duplex nails are also known as scaffold nails. Never seen them here but I did a search and found they are available in Australia. The nearest stockist to me is Koala Nails in Brisbane, 122 km away.And they are expensive little blighters. $178.00 for a 2.5 kg pack of 1o0mm 4.5 nails. At over $3 each that makes for expensive little swords! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpearson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I read it as a 25kg carton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shimanek Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I used a lot of duplex nails as a form carpenter…now that i am in American Samoa i can't find them, but they are great when you need to nail something together that you want to take apart later. And apparently they make great stock for mini swords! Looks like fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankySmith Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Aus, too bad about the cost over your way, they are really dirt cheap here in the states, at least in the south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I'll have another look. It was a pdf with blurry print. Also typed in a wrong distance from Brisbane - 1200km. I read it as a 25kg carton Yeah, you were right, I did misread the unclear print. 25 kg cartons not 2.5kg. That makes a much more sensible price of about 10 cents each. Pity they only supply these nails in such large quantities. I'll keep looking. Just had a look for duplex nails on eBay. Nothing on Australian eBay. You guys in the U.S. can get them for $5.99 a pound. Freight to Australia: $48.81 !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eseemann Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Aus, too bad about the cost over your way, they are really dirt cheap here in the states, at least in the south. Where do you get your nails? Ernest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankySmith Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Local HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eseemann Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I just saw a 5lb (or so) box at the Habitat Re-Store but I did not fell like parting with my pocket money just yet. I think they want $10.00 for them but they were a bit rusty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 Got mine at the local HD also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borntoolate Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 IF you work somewhere where they build a lot of scaffolds you can find them (duplex nails) laying all over the place. I work at an oil refinery and we build many many scaffolds. These things are everywhere. Could probably go pick up a handful in 10 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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