Glenn Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Show me the tooling you use on your fly press and what it can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Greetings Glenn/others. I will start this thread off .... I have tons of Flypress tools but not pictures of all.. I hope many IFI members participate and pass on some new ideas for others. Here are a few simple ones... 1.. flat dies for tenons ( I have not used a spring die since I designed this tool } 2.. Butcher... Universal.. I use most for forming the step for tenons.. ( No more monkey tool } 3.. Off set ram... Used for many forming odd shapes.. I can form a complete circle with this tool 4.. Fixture for Whitney punches... Impressions ... Decorative... Edge work... Ect Ect. The list goes on and on and on.. I will try to take more pictures soon and pass on more.. ( Going to Florida Monday for a weeks warm up ] Press on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOC Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 As usual, excellent stuff Jim! A 'when-I-get-around-to-it' is a bottom plate with hardie hole sizes of my anvils'. cheers, A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuge Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Photo one is a typical scene of my press. I have a p6 from old world anvils. My favorite machine, i would like a little brother one day. Lets se, magnets to hold wrenches, the round hunk i use as an anvil. Easy to move around and you can stack up chunks to get the arm into a favorable working position. Photo two is some of my tooling. I almost exclusively use 1" bolts and welds. I dont use tool holders and some of my tools are without bolsters. I'm a bad boy. One of the first things i did after using the machine for about 10 minutes was cut all my hand top tools in half and set them up for the fly press, you can see a bunch of these in the pic. Photo three is of a typical fullering setup. There is a 1" hole for bottom tooling. Note the little 1/4" arm that fits into a hole in the table. Keeps 'er from moving. My table is a 1/2 inch plate welded to a smaller, thicker hunk which leaves a good overhang on all sides for clamping fixtures, fences. The table is adjustable in all directions to center and offset things. The last photo is more tooling. Enjoy. More to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Last scrapyard visit I lucked onto an item I believe is a disk spacer for farming. The luck is that it's stout and has a square hole the same size as my large anvil hardies 1.5" so now I can use their hardy hole tooling as bottom tooling on my large screwpress. I made a number of them from top tools with mangled striking ends, (using the screwpress to forge the eye ends to fit the 1.5" hardy holes. Buying set tools with mangled striking ends tend to be cheap a term used to describe me nearly as often as "disreputable red hat"....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Greetings ...Nuge,... All, I don't know if you saw the adjustable swing lever that I designed for the P-6 ... I showed it to Bob and Terry and I think they offer one close to it.. It adds a little weight to the flywheel and is a pinch design... I made this when I first got the press and as a joke I call it my mini. NAZEL ..Notice the stick on nose.. It works well and the arm is also adjustable up and down... Press on and make beautiful things Thanx Nuge for the great post.. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Greetings Andrew, I made up this plate long ago and it works well ... Only 3/8 plate with some square tube... Easy to make... Press on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuge Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Here is a very simple setup that can be taken in many directions. A v-block on the bottom and a round nosed punch. You can clamp the block down in a perfect position and really go fast with this. The material samples were some round-ish rebar and some 3/8 square bar. The v block is actually textured so the backsides of the samples have a nice organic feel as we'll. The resulting triangular cross section has tons of decorative applications. You can use different top tools, spacings, etc. One of my favorite things about a fly press is how playful it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Greetings Nuge, That makes a neat element with a lot of applications.. I love decorative impressions using my fly press.. Press on and show me more.. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I had just convinced myself that I didn't need an addition of a fly press for my workshop and now I've gone and seen this thread!! So what sort of size press is best suited for forge work? Looks like the possibilities are endless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapremac Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Curly......I believe you're right,the possibilities are endless. The tooling is only limited by ones imagination. I would be interested in seeing a texturing tool that would do a checkering pattern such as that on a gun stock. Ever seen anything like that Jim or Nuge ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Greetings Vapremac, Sure.... I use a section of a file for the top die.. With the size of the die I can only do a small area at a time... I control the impression by the stop and the temperature of the metal... Hot=deeper.. If you can dream it a fly press can do it.. LOL Press on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caotropheus Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 So what sort of size press is best suited for forge work? I do not have much experience working with fly presses, I have two presses, one little one, probably 2 ton and one that I am restoring that is close to 10 ton. The answer is crystal clear, the bigger the fly press, the best but I think the "C" frame 6 ton press is the most multivalent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapremac Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Jim, I knew you would have a solution for that !!! LOL!! OK.....how about something to imitate the pattern of a rope ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Greetings again Vipremac, That's an easy one.. I have a spring rope die.. I have adaptors that I can use any spring die on my fly press... Simple, heat the stock up ... pop it in the die bam bam than twist to taste... What's next ?? Press on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I do not have much experience working with fly presses, I have two presses, one little one, probably 2 ton and one that I am restoring that is close to 10 ton. The answer is crystal clear, the bigger the fly press, the best but I think the "C" frame 6 ton press is the most multivalent. I should have known that was the case! Have my eye on a Denbigh no.4 on eBay that's going for £25/$40 at the moment, I am sure it will go up a bit. Think that would be big enough or still on the small side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Its a snip at that price, depending on travel to fetch costs, and the cost to make a suitable mounting for it, You can always upgrade later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Well that's what I thought John, would buy it in a heart beat if that was the asking price but knowing eBay everyone will wait until the last second to bid and it'll go through the roof! Anyway folks, sorry to hijack this thread can get back to talking about tooling now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew T Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I think Nuge and I like the same kind of machines. These are some old photos show some random tooling mostly for bending. You can see part of the 3"x3"x7" V block I use for my anvil to get things up to height. The adjustable square and round bars are nice for a lot of things. The bar I'm curving is 1/2" x 3 1/3". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapremac Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Andrew.......I bet those adjustable squares and rounds come in handy for quite a few different applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWHII Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Here is a set up I use for off setting flat bar. The dowl pin is for alining the dies, also I punch the holes for the rivet at the intersection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapremac Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Harold , That's a good idea with the dowel pin ,is it removable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWHII Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Vapremac this one is not, but I guess it could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knots Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 So the dowel pin/rivet holes are drilled in advance and act as a spacing guide ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuge Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 The two set ups shown by Andrew and Harold are worth the price of admission. It is amazing what size stock you can curve in a decent sized press. And graceful, gentle bends. Don't like it, need a little more? Just a few more bumps. No whaling away with a hammer, easy on the body. And the offset move Harold posted is just plain useful. The different sized jigs for this just seem to pile up. It's funny but the biggest pain is changing tools. So I find the simplest ones are the best. Same old story. The piece in the picture is all done with the one tool. I think the parent material was 1 x 1/4 or 3/4 x 1/4. That whole thing prolly took me twenty minutes or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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