Dave Murray Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Nope, i'am from Fort Erie Ontario, Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everything Mac Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 That isn't mutilating an anvil! That's making it extremely functional for its users and the 32 bids would indeed confirm that. Mutilating an anvil is welding a handle onto the center of the face so it can be used for weight lifting! - I've seen this done a couple of times now. And both would have been very good, usable anvils. All the best Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aessinus Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 It's about to break the $870 mark... And it's got 1 day and 22 hours... Hope someone likes Crow... Too.Funny. Yeah, I put it on my watch list for the humor value. At near $7/lb. Tex is gonna make his modification labor back, as well. :lol: At this rate he might be able to sell his plans to farriers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Geist Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 32 bids, not 32 bidders. I can assure you of one thing. None of them were me. ckquote class='ipsBlockquote' >Mutilating an anvil is welding a handle onto the center of the face so it can be used for weight lifting! - I've seen this done a couple of times now. And both would have been very good, usable anvils. Now that's certainly contradictory to say that isn't it? Isn't that also making it functional for it's users too? I'd say it's exactly the same in comparison. Look guys, I told the OP I was done with this thread. For some reason nobody wants to let it die. For those who say it's just a horseshoeing anvil and very available and plentiful I'll say this: Just a FYI in case anybody cares. Bill Pieh of Centaur Forge fame as I understand it, gathered together abunch of the best Standardbred shoers he could find back in the '50s.After consulting and putting their heads together they came up with what they thought to be the best anvil design for shoeing. For the most part I think they pretty much did it. I'd say the real herculean feat for the project was getting a gathering of horseshoers to all agree on something He contracted with Kohlswa of Sweden to make this anvil. He had a whole boatload of them shipped over sometime in the late'50s or early'60s. As I understand it that shipment was the only one. After he sold out of them which took about 25 or 30 years that was it. No more were made or will be made. I did see a couple extremely rare ones made in the BruceDaniels design. Those are scarce as hens teeth as I think the production run on those could be counted on one hand. Is still a top shelf anvil and a good score to anybody who can find one. Better than any of the contemporary stuff made today.Aside from that, I'm all about innovation and necessity being the mother of invention and all that. It has it's place and is a good thing. I'll also say that I've had more than my share of swaging. I certainly don't profess to know everything, but in the trade of horseshoeing there is no reason. I repeat NO REASON to ever have to do anything like that to an anvil. Not any time for any reason ever. I certainly have no ill will towards the OP or anybody else on here and I hope he gets the money he wants for it but I'll not lie and say the thing doesn't hurt my eyes. Now I'm done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewayforge Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The very fine line between mutilation and invention is very fine indeed...........and also subjective. I think, although Bill Pieh might have brought 50 together to agree, we might do well by agreeing that we cannot agree. To George it will always be mutilation. To some Tex it will be making the best use of a tool. I would like to propose that we end it with disagreement. Yes, we do lose an anvil with crisp clean unbroken lines. But we also gain a swedge anvil that is still very much usable, just in a different function. So, for every opinion there is an equal but opposite opinion. I would advise every reader to use their tools responsibly, but in a way that makes them the most efficient. As to those blacksmiths and farriers who will gripe at the loss of a perfect tool, I advise you to go and buy every perfect anvil so as to preserve the history and the tools for the future. That way you are happy, and so is the person who modifies one. If you are not willing to spend the big bucks to buy a perfect large top brand anvil, I dare say there is little right for you to go about criticizing someone elses use of one. Ah, there. I just lost two more pennies to this lovely forum! I hope we can still all agree to disagree and get back to hitting hot metal with rocks onto bigger rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everything Mac Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 32 bids, not 32 bidders. I can assure you of one thing. None of them were me. I did say 32 bids. Now that's certainly contradictory to say that isn't it? Isn't that also making it functional for it's users too? I'd say it's exactly the same in comparison. I wouldn't say so. Modifying it to make better use/more money is one thing - modifying it to be easier to hold/pick up is very different as you've taken a functional tool and made it into simply a heavy block of steel - in which case any block of steel would do..... Cheers Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Esposito Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 show us a picture of your modified anvil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Just so this does not disappear into the ether. Sold for $1,025. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 On February 6, 2013 at 7:58 AM, John McPherson said: Just so this does not disappear into the ether. Sold for $1,025. And ironically, the great forum software shift made those images disappear into the ether. Still have copies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Here are the four pictures of what I think was the modified MFC anvil in question, along with a new Cottam farriers anvil that comes with similar mods built in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Thanks. Hard to tell what people were getting worked up over when I couldn't see the original photos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I never really got what made Jack so exited about having his anvils cast with the crooked and upswept horns, the taperd heal and turning cams are standard fare. The knotched heal just infront of the turning cams on the little one serve the same purpose, that is to aid in forging square toes on keg shoes. He even went so far as having hollow anvils cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I think I'd wear a cup working around one of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 27 minutes ago, ThomasPowers said: I think I'd wear a cup working around one of those! I don't feel the need to run with the bulls every time I go to smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Eah, marketing... tho his In laws forge good tools, and Jack imports them from the Philipeins, as well as a nice line of shoes he has made there as well. His anvils are just plane funky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Geist Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Anything done to Jack's anvils would probably be an improvement. The mutilated one that was subject of this thread was a nice Swedish Centaur. Why in the world did you guys dig this thread out of the trash? You all trying to give me a heart condition????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Take your nitro, and go set down some where and breath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Well, I can't find anything in my files that matches that description, so it is truly gone into the abyss. I didn't have a dog in this fight anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 2 hours ago, John McPherson said: I didn't have a dog in this fight anyway. Oh, me either -- I just heard the snarling and wondered what was the breed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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