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[Nazelhammers]

Well hit me in the head with a hammer they are the same. Attached is a picture of a Erie self contined air hammer. See we can learn something new if we all just try. I never put 2 and 2 together.

[youngdylan]

Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver, on 14 March 2010 - 06:30 PM, said:

Actually looks a lot like a Williams & White, friend of mine has a 750lb one of those. Ram looks like what the Brits call a "Rigby type". Do you know if it had a special single-blow feature?

YES! Pictures! We love pictures.

I'd no idea you guys had some many varities of air hammer. There again, there was a time I thought all power hammers looked like Blackers.

[youngdylan]

Nazelhammers, on 14 March 2010 - 06:31 PM, said:

Well hit me in the head with a hammer they are the same. Attached is a picture of a Erie self contined air hammer. See we can learn something new if we all just try. I never put 2 and 2 together.

pictures not attached

[Nazelhammers]

Let try this one more time. It appears Erie and Beaudry air hammer are on in the same.

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[youngdylan]

Nazelhammers, on 14 March 2010 - 06:38 PM, said:

Let try this one more time. It appears Erie and Beaudry air hammer are on in the same.

way out of my depth here but is the beaudry a one piece?

[John Larson]

I sure am glad we got the picure. Learning more about these hammers would be fabulous. Having an owner of one participate in this industrial archaeology would be icing on the cake.

[Nazelhammers]

Nazel monster truck. Other side of Eire and close up of Beaudry air.

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[Nazelhammers]

It appears a Beaudry in a 3 piece hammer bolted together. Even a Nazel one piece is actually a 2 piece. The base and top half are snaped ringed together. Warning don't take a Nazel apart at the rings. They are a female pitbull to put back together.

[Danger Dillon]

It looks like the Erie is in a architectural shop, location? Also a few billets sitting there next to it, looks like fun.

[Cross Pein]

Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver, on 14 March 2010 - 05:29 PM, said:

Cross Pein: I like your signature, but I don' know about the Conyer.

Charlie was an Amazon that we had for almost 20 years. Between his noise and our lack of attention to him we decided to give him to a real bird lover about a year ago. I still miss him sometimes, but I don't miss the screeching! We used to have a very large house and it was less of a problem. The mess was also an issue - they create a lot of dust but can give good companionship. He will probably outlive me by 40 years!

[youngdylan]

Is that the normal way of instaling the Eire or has it been lifted as per the Jessy James nazel?

[Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver]

Just a little bit that I know about this type of hammer. Looks funny with that skinny rod sticking down, don't it? So how do they keep it from turning, I hear you ask? Patience, it's all in the wrist. The rod continues all the way up through the top head and is hidden by that cover. This upper part of the rod is square and runs in a very large square bushing. Cool, huh?

[youngdylan]

Danger Dillon, on 14 March 2010 - 07:08 PM, said:

It looks like the Erie is in a architectural shop, location? Also a few billets sitting there next to it, looks like fun.

looks like it's not too old a photo looking at the footswitches (for a roller?) at the bottom of the picture

[youngdylan]

Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver, on 14 March 2010 - 07:14 PM, said:

Just a little bit that I know about this type of hammer. Looks funny with that skinny rod sticking down, don't it? So how do they keep it from turning, I hear you ask? Patience, it's all in the wrist. The rod continues all the way up through the top head and is hidden by that cover. This upper part of the rod is square and runs in a very large square bushing. Cool, huh?

so what is the weight of the tup? It sorta looks a bit light compared to the size of the frame?

[Nazelhammers]

Can't offer anything help or advise on these hammers because I haven't studied them. I can just offer the pictures for all to digest. I wanted to take the Beaudry apart but it didn't go over with the owner.

[Nazelhammers]

The 5B in the back ground to the right in the picture with the Eire is a 5B we sold to our customer with the Eire. The 5B came out of Philadelphia Electric’s maintenance shop before it was closed.

[youngdylan]

southshoresmith, on 14 March 2010 - 03:51 PM, said:

I do have a friend who is 82 and calls him self a master blacksmith. To be frank I am a better smith than him.

South

I sure as xxxx hope you're a better smith than hin, you're 36. Can't see an 82 year old getting too much work done

[Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver]

+@$%&#&spit^*())#@ & sputter*&$! Goll dang young whipper-snappers!!!

Actually I get almost as much done per hour now as I did 20 years ago. Partly I work smarter (than you) Partly I take the time to make the tooling that makes the job go easier and my tooling works right firsttime-everytime and I make fewer mistakes. Oh yeah, and I work 12hrs a day. Mostly because I flat love it and I don't have TV!

[Timothy Miller]

youngdylan, on 14 March 2010 - 07:50 PM, said:

South

I sure as xxxx hope you're a better smith than hin, you're 36. Can't see an 82 year old getting too much work done

I don't think he ever really took the time to expand his skills outside of fishtail scrolls and dressing jackhammer bits. but during his hay day he was the only gig in town. He is more into playing with machine tools and coffee and cake these days. I should shut up because I love the man god forbid he saw this.

[Mainely,Bob]

Big fish,small pond huh?
In the unions I used to run across "journeymen" who had worked one place almost all their adult lives.Got their training there and knew only what the hands at those locations had taught them.IMO they were "journeymen" only because they had stayed on long enough at that job and were pulling "journeyman" wage.Some of them didn`t have near the skill set of a third year apprentice and would have had a hard time pulling above helper rate if they went somewhere else and had to prove their skills.
Good for them if they can wrangle the money.There is also something to be said for committing a large chunk of your life to staying in one place or job.
Doesn`t make someone a bad person.Lucky maybe,but not bad.Doesn`t make them a "journeyman" either.

As to the "Master" debaters.For that sort of thing to fly by me I need proof.
I see Danger,David,Rory,Grant,Larry,Young Dylan,etc turning out work(thru pics with them in the pics)and speaking of that work in an intelligent and informed way so I know it`s their work.They are all xxxx good at what they do and it would be for someone way above my pay grade to hang the appropriate title on them.
However,if you show up near where me and my friends are working and declare yourself a "master" anything that`s an open invitation to be tested,even if you have a sheepskin saying it`s so.In the working world here in New England it`s NOT show and tell,it`s roll up the sleeves,get to it and we`ll see when the day`s done.

The only widely agreed upon "master" we have up here is someone you can go to to get the proper thing to lure marine animals either into a trap or onto a hook.She has made it her life`s work to know what the fishermen need and how it needs to be stored,prepared and delivered on time in order for them to get the job done.Her business,trucks and cards say"The Bait Lady".She openly agrees that she is a "master" at what she does and responds warmly to the greetings from the docks touting her title and heralding her arrival.