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Old 09-17-2008, 10:41 PM
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Yeah, it does look like the BBQ grill from Xxxx. LOL. I was wondering that as well tetnum, could you please explain. My forge, has a brake-drum for the fire pot, and I get about a 10" long by 5" wide even heated area..yellowish. So I was wondering why the bars. Because there would be a lot more oxidation, and a little bit harder to get a real hot fire. It could also consume more fuel. I AM IN NO WAY DISSING YOUR FORGE. Just putting my ideas out there, and wondering why. I can't wait to here of the advantages to that firepot.

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Old 09-18-2008, 03:44 AM
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i am just wondering why the brake drum is flush and covered with a grate it seams that might be more effective to have the brake drum rased a little and a smaller tweer

but you might be on to something you would get a fairily even burn across a large aria
The brake drum had a 1/4" lip on it and i hung that lip over the giant circle i had to cut (with an angle grinder) in the 1/4" plate I supported the fire pot in. Then I just welded that lip to the plate. Believe me, that fire pot is IN there! No heat could take that out of there, xxxx I'm not even sure a direct nuclear hit could take that fire pot out of there. lol

I somewhat followed this design. See attached photo.

The tweer is 6 1/4" holes and it puts about a 3" or 4" area of airflow right in the middle which seemed to be what people were saying in the stuff I read. My only conern is that I may have to make a new tweer that fits into the inner bottom of the brake drum, instead of covers the entire bottom so I can get more depth out of the drum itself. Cause I think I might be a little shy on depth with the tweer and grill. But i'll have to see when i fire it up.
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:51 AM
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Yeah, it does look like the BBQ grill from H***. LOL. I was wondering that as well tetnum, could you please explain. My forge, has a brake-drum for the fire pot, and I get about a 10" long by 5" wide even heated area..yellowish. So I was wondering why the bars. Because there would be a lot more oxidation, and a little bit harder to get a real hot fire. It could also consume more fuel. I AM IN NO WAY DISSING YOUR FORGE. Just putting my ideas out there, and wondering why. I can't wait to here of the advantages to that firepot.

Best Regards,
John
Honestly I don't know if a grill is better or worse. I felt like just the tweer would probably not get enough air dissipation under the full diameter of the coal. So i'm not sure if the grill is a bane or a blessing yet. I saw someone had a grill and they swore up and down by it since it's an easily replacable element, unlike replacing the drum/firepot. But seeing as I have a replacable 1/4" tweer I guess it's somewhat of a double up. I definitely want to try "just the grill" and see what the fire is like.. and "just the tweer without the grill" and see what the fire is like. That might lend to my ideas in making a second one. I've also seen the ole clinker breaker inside black pipe setup and yet i've been told by many people that they were not too pleased with that particular setup. From months of investigating back yard forges I came to the conclusion that there's really a lot of ways to do this, everyone thinks their way is the expert way (haha) and clearly results vary.

I'll admit i'm certainly no expert, i'm just going by what the people who thougtht they were "most right" said ROFL
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:33 AM
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Lol, Avadon, I was just wondering about heat with the tweer, and then that open space, that's all. Thanks for clearing all of that stuff up. Can't wait to see it in action.

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