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Old 08-31-2007, 08:07 AM
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Does anyone have any info on how to heat treat 1095 carbon steel using the Japanese claying method? And what method and temp do you temper after the heat treating?

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1095 is awfully high carbon for doing the clay hardening bit using water. Be prepared for a LOT of failures.

Most folk I know suggest doing an interrupted quench on it and they still expect around 50% failures due to quench cracks.

Japanese swords were generally more around 1050 and very shallow hardening at that.
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:42 PM
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Katsumoto,
I've had good luck creating hamon lines in 1095 using a hybrid method. Coat with clay as normal, I heat to mid/upper critical- a shade brighter than non magnetic, and quench in 120 degree canola oil ( rape seed oil ) , Temper - well that depends on the size of the blade and application 375f - 475 f . One thing to keep in mind is the sori or curvature caused by quenching is backwards in the oil , instead of curving up it curves down. I've been experimenting more with water quenching , but still crash allot of blades , with a Oil quench I have better than 90% success rate, with water it's , 40 % if I'm LUCKY !

Thomas has it quite right , if you want to water quench start with some 1050 or 1065 or be prepared for lots of warps and cracks ...

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Thanks for the info. I already have 5 peices of 1095 and I am going to be making blades in the 5" to 8" range. I will see how it works and go from there.
Maybe I will try some 1050 or 1065 steel next time.

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Old 09-05-2007, 11:02 PM
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To increase your luck and avoid cracking from the radical quench of water or brine, use Parks #50 quench oil, which approximates the speed of water/brine, which will be necessary for 1095 and hamon activity. Due to its professional nature, it avoids the stress more common to water quenches.
Available form Darren Ellis by the gallon.

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I used hybrid method too. It worked fine.

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