Forge Welding ?

[Ron Hicks]

Im not sure what you call it I want to Forge Weld end to end mild steel.
I know I need to upset and scarf both ends but not sure how to get them together.
Do you stick them together in the fire?
Take them out and put them together on the anvil?

Once its welded can I forge on the weld ?
How hot at the weld should it be to forge?

I could use some help
Thanks Ron

[yesteryearforge]

If scarfed correctly when you come out of the fire at welding heat , just touch them together and the thin part of the scarf should stick / drop your tongs and hammer weld them together.
After it is welded you can continue forging the weld area if it is a good weld.

[Rich Hale]

You can speed up the learning process if you scarf the pieces then put a little tack wild with tig mig or stick on one side then forge weld, let the scarfs over lap a bit so when you get done the rod is the same size at weld as the rest of stock

[Mike Turner]

Ron how large is the piece you are trying to jump weld? This may help with your question. And what type of forge are you using?

[Ron Hicks]

Im want to make a ladle , necking down a 1/4 X 2 in. to 1/4 x 3/4 in. and welding on a handle.
Also to make tongs

[ThomasPowers]

You may want to think about forge brazing than welding for the ladle.

[Ron Hicks]

I would really like to weld on the handle- Ill be drawing out and necking down part of the stock for the ladle & the necked part will be part of the handle.
Ill just go at it and see what works
Thanks
Ron

[HWooldridge]

What you are describing is feasible. The ladle is spread from the parent stock and a small tang left to weld to. You don't want to try and weld 18 ga to 1/4 but similar sizes will work. Place the tang downwards into the fire and the ladle body will be less likely to burn.

[BT]

This is the way Jerry Darnell teaches in his Colonial utensil class. Neck the parent stock down and scarf and weld to the handle stock. THEN spread out the stock to form the ladle.

[Nolano]

Forge welding is made out to be harder than it is. Just like any other blacksmithing operation, you need lots of practice to get it down well. I'm alright at welding, but bad at a drop the tongs weld, which is what you are describing. Practice, and have a way to fix things if they go wrong.