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Old 07-11-2008, 01:30 PM
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I started on this thing some years ago, like 11 or so. Well, I changed jobs, met Deb, got married, moved to the woods, built a pygmy goat farm and finished my last 10 years on the paycheck job. Somehow I didn't get to this.

Okay, part of this thing was built a decade ago and some parts disappeared sometime since.

The first pic is jigging the upright "C" frame to the base plate.

The next pic is tapping the upper tool holder for a removeable spreader/retainer plate.

The next is a good one of Frosty screwing up. How many of you see it?

Next I'm getting it right by dry fitting everything first. Then I clamped and squared everything and tack welded it at the same time. No repeat mistakes. . . At least on the same darned tool!

I used gloss paper from an instruction sheet as spacers between the top guides, bottom holder and the dies for clearance. The bottom holder is a bit looser than I'd like but I can correct that easily enough with a few well placed center punch dimples. The top die needs to have the mill scale, rust, etc. sanded off to move freely which is just right.

This is a top view before I trimmed off about an inch. It shows how I've aligned the dies at a 45* angle with the support so I can run stock through either across or in line with the dies.

The bolt on retainer plate makes it so I can change the top tool even if the die face is larger than the guides.

There are welded on strike plates on top of the top die. These are lightly migged on, I'll break out the stick welder and do it properly before I put it into use.

The last two shots are looking at it from both working directions.

Only the one set of dies as of today.

The hardy is set so the dies are centered over it. I may change it if it turns out I use it more in the anvil rather than the vise or swage block.

Dies are 3/8" x 2" mild. I have some 3/8" leaf spring I'll use to make cutting dies with. They open to 2" and the throat is about 3".

I don't know if this will be sturdy enough for heavy work. If not I'll build a more conventional "A" frame support.

Cutting dies and paint next.

Frosty
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:03 PM
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Frosty, that's an interesting looking machine!

Third pic? Yeah, I see it.

I really like that idea of turning the dies to a 45 deg. angle to the post.....let's you easily use the tool both across and length ways of the dies. Great!

Be sure and post more pics as you make more dies and begin to use the machine!

I haven't seen anything like your fullering tool before,
You must now come up with a cool name for it!

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Hi Frosty, don't want to put a downer on this, but I made one similar using 1/2" x 2" spring steel for blades/dies, the problem I found was they are just that bit short for making tenons etc, but ideal for cut off and veining, so I had to make another with a larger set of dies, I used 1" x 2" stock and found this much better.
Good idea on the 45 degrees though, allows more versatile access.
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Frosty, that's an interesting looking machine!

Third pic? Yeah, I see it.

You must now come up with a cool name for it!

James
A real head slapper of a mistake huh? The worst part is I can't count the number of times I've done something like that. PLUS I'm really out of practice fabbing things, didn't do much as an operator as compared to being a driller.

Cool name eh? How about "Frosty's Fullerizer Machine"? Or, "Frosty's Fully Skewed Gizmo."

Uh. . . I'll consider suggestions. It does need a name before it goes into the BPs

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Hi Frosty, don't want to put a downer on this, but I made one similar using 1/2" x 2" spring steel for blades/dies, the problem I found was they are just that bit short for making tenons etc, but ideal for cut off and veining, so I had to make another with a larger set of dies, I used 1" x 2" stock and found this much better.

I'm not clear about which dimension is too small. Are you saying the dies need to be thicker?

If so I can weld whatever size, radius, etc. (within reason of course) to die blanks. This is why I built it so the guide/retainer plate can be removed easily.

If I'm not getting the picture, a quick sketch would be good.

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Old 07-11-2008, 03:48 PM
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Pic three; the red arows point to the errors???












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Is the mistake in the 3rd picture the fact that the the layout for the dies is perpendicular to angle of the cut for the "head" of the device?

I didn't catch it until I studied the other pictures.

Cool contraption, Frosty.

How about "Frosty's Fabulous Fuller Fabricator" for a name! or "Frosty's Fully Fabricated Fullerator Fixture"??

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Old 07-11-2008, 04:59 PM
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Cool Frosty,
reminds me of one that I saw when when we did a workshop to build a bunch of these blacksmith helpers. I'll have to find those pix......you might like the way it added "stops".
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Nice mochine Frosty. Nice and simple for simple folk like me. Thanks.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:19 PM
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Is the mistake in the 3rd picture the fact that the the layout for the dies is perpendicular to angle of the cut for the "head" of the device?

I didn't catch it until I studied the other pictures.

Cool contraption, Frosty.

How about "Frosty's Fabulous Fuller Fabricator" for a name! or "Frosty's Fully Fabricated Fullerator Fixture"??

-aaron
Ayup. Laid out and welded solid before I noticed they were 90* out.

How about "Frosty's Cool Contraption # 56"?

Oh, how about "Frosty's Fuller Than Some Guys"?

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