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Old 05-31-2008, 03:02 PM
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Well, I think I can get my Kinyon hammer finished in the next 30 days, so this is my thread to hold my feet to the fire. I've got the baseplate bolted down and the main upright welded. I've got a few more chunks of steel on the way, and almost no air plumping parts except for the cylinder and the compressor. Here is what I have done



Suggestions for how to do the plumbing and controls cheerfully accepted.
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:10 PM
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OHhhh it's gettin' there!
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:53 PM
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Working out the dimensions now. Still not sure on how I'm going to do the control system yet though...
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:57 PM
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Now that's a kn'eye beam! Get it? ("now that's a knoife!") Well, I thought it was funny! Anyway, looking good so far Todd Are you looking specifically for the air schematics? Here is a simple diagram from zoeller forge
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It's great you're undertaking this project and sharing it with us. Please document it as much as possible. Thanks so much, Phil
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:04 PM
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It's great you're undertaking this project and sharing it with us. Please document it as much as possible. Thanks so much, Phil
No problem. I'm planning on taking pictures of the construction stages.

I'm kind of leaning to the standard Kinyon control system. It took me a little bit of thinking about it to get it down as to how it works. This was from watching the video of the Coleman controls and how fast the switch works there. However it looks like there is a moderate amount of extra work with the Coleman system.

I'm also going to be using a square tubing (with 1/2" wall thickness) for the ram guide, so I may have to cut down the 12" long section of it to have enough extra room for the control switch to work on the ram.

I also need to track down somebody with a plasma cutter so I can cut out a square out of the U-channel that I'm mounting the air cylinder on. That way I can pull the ram out once it has been assembled, as I would like to be able to welding the U-channel on top of the H-beam spacer.

Edit: Also think I'm going to run the dies at 90° rather than 45° on account of the fact I'm only using a 4" square ram. That way I'll have room for wider dies.

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Old 06-02-2008, 05:06 AM
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I understand that these Kinyon style hammers typically use an air pilot for the switching?? I was wondering if anyone has tried an electric solenoid air switch. Would it work? Would it switch fast enough? The reason I ask is because I was given such a switch and am very interested in possibly building an air hammer to supplement or perhaps replace my tire hammer.
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Torin,
I recently completed a Kinyon-style power hammer. I have 2 schematics that I could email to you, if you wish. One is a hand drawing from Dave Mudge at the Magic Hammer Forge, and the other is a cad drawing, which is basically the same thing. Both use the secondary regulator that was designed by the guys at the Alabama Forge Council.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:46 PM
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I would definitely appreciate that. You can send it to torin3@gmail.com I can open most cad drawings. Thank you!
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Torin,
great to be able to follow your progress. Maybe it'll motivate me to finish the I-beam one I started years ago.
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