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Old 08-21-2008, 08:45 AM
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Default Anyang 33lb - Help me !

Good morning guys !

I need help !

I don't have a good notice ...

After 20 min at work, the hammer in top setting position not work great; the ram not move up to reach an ideal height (complitely into cylinder).

in top setting position the ram must be in upper position, now is in lower position, the dies is in contact.

I contact the Anyang factory but, them answer :

I reported the problems to our after-sale department,the technicians told me that maybe the seal of valve has problem,so please kindly check the middle of valve.

If you have any questions about our power hammer or need any help from us,please feel free to contact with me!

Thanks and Best regards,

Susan


but, I would ispection the working cylinder, the piston rings is in a good condition.

open the handel lever valve (upper and lower lever), I found nothing, no big pools of oil in the valves.

I decice to open the cover of compressing cylinder and .......

I FOUNDA SCREW ON TOP THE CYLINDER !!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS ABSURDITY, INCONCEIVABLE FOR MY EXPERIENCE.


Anyang 33lb - Screw found into cylinder

The gap beetween the cover of compressing cylinder and the compressing piston,I have measured, is little larger of the thickness of the screw; the screw not it does not have chopped herbs or damaged the piston.

I decide to open all parts of hammer, to investigate it.

I don't found nothing, and I do not know from where it arrives

I'm abashed and they are disappointed for this, after only little hours of operation.

and now I see the interior of Anyang 33lb.

I upload more more more image on the gallery.

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Old 08-21-2008, 10:40 AM
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OK TRatto we can sort this out. First thing you need to do is calm down and concentrate on your English. Let me know exactly what is wrong and I will get my Chinese wife to speak to Anyang and see what can be done. That screw looks worn. Is it a piece of scrap that got in by mistake or has it dropped out of the machine?

Massey rep. if you are reading this can you be of any help? Where is it from? (BTW did you find the reference to your company in the works of Edgar Allen Poe?)

As soon as I have details Linna can contact Anyang.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:08 AM
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nothing broken .... but the situation is this :ù

the hammer loose instantaneously the power, and in a top setting position (hanlde lever) dont' stay up.

I found a screw beetwen cover cylynder and piston (compressing cylinder)

My english is vary bad ....
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:11 PM
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Trattoclip, your English is very understandable. If need be, post in English, then post again in Italian and I will try to translate as best I can.

You may wish to go to the opening page IForgeIron.com and on the top right use the pull down under translate to choose Italian Language. This should translate the entire site into Italian for you. It will not translate your posts, they need to be posted in English or both languages please.

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Trattoclip
the small bolt with the hole in it and a cut for the screwdriver is a part of the nonreturn
oiling valve that was unscrewwed from the vibratin and fell into the machine.
if u''ll dissmentle the oiling pipe and unscrew the nonreturenvalv u''ll fined were it came from. to day they are producing new nonreturn valvs that u may ask your agent to get for u.
as for the none regularity of the hammer work, check the handle of manual forging on the right side of the hammer(chrom plated) there under is a spring loaded lach sometimes
1 the spring is not holding the vibration and slides dowen and the handl that holds the valv is not in place.
2 the lach is having a step to hold the two valvs in a possition some times one must grind 1-2 mm and make the step deeper and the machine will start to forge in the right rhythem again.
hope it helps
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One thing I forgot sorry about that.
u must check if the ram hammer is wet from oil if not may be that is the reason.
last year I was demonstraiting in STIA with two anyang hammers and I know them
very good.
philip of chaina if u know nothing about air hammers do not advice what to do with them.
and u do not have to humiliate some one for his language, my English is also not good !!!
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I hope you were not insulted by my message. I did not want to insult you! I just want you to know that I am here in China. My wife is Chinese and completely bilingual. So if you have problems communicating with Anyang she could speak to them in Chinese and then translate into English for you.

You should understand that I know nothing about power hammers!
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Trattoclip
the small bolt with the hole in it and a cut for the screwdriver is a part of the nonreturn
oiling valve that was unscrewwed from the vibratin and fell into the machine.
if u''ll dissmentle the oiling pipe and unscrew the nonreturenvalv u''ll fined were it came from. to day they are producing new nonreturn valvs that u may ask your agent to get for u.
as for the none regularity of the hammer work, check the handle of manual forging on the right side of the hammer(chrom plated) there under is a spring loaded lach sometimes
1 the spring is not holding the vibration and slides dowen and the handl that holds the valv is not in place.
2 the lach is having a step to hold the two valvs in a possition some times one must grind 1-2 mm and make the step deeper and the machine will start to forge in the right rhythem again.
hope it helps
Hofi

Good morning Mr Hofi, thank you very much for your help.

I hope of being understood, I'm go, step to step

- the small bolt not have a hole in it, it has only a cut for the screwdriver; on the opposite side it ends to tip

- on top of working cylinder, I found a hole ("A") threaded, with the same pass of the screw

- In my opinion, this screw it closes this hole ("A") on top of working cylinder; Mr. Hofi, see the image, you can see two chisel blows by hand form Anyang factory (bad handle work)

See this image :

Click on image to view larger image !



Top working cylinder - Anyang C41-15 - Blacksmith Photo Gallery

The hammer less power because a part of the air on top the cylinder, it passes through, and loses the power.

Is it a possible solution ?

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An other ask on this image :


screw stop slab - Blacksmith Photo Gallery

Click on image to view larger image !

There is a image of a interior of compressing cylinder, two screw with a cut for the screwdriver ("B") they hold stops a slab, I must be use LOCTITE® 569 Thread Sealant High Strength Hydraulic to stop a hypothetical vibrational loosening ?

there is an other two screw in working cylinder, they hold stops a slab, I must be use LOCTITE® 569 to stop a hypotheticalvibrational loosening ?


Many thank for your help !

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Old 08-22-2008, 06:12 AM
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Anyang factory answer :

"Good morning V. Federico,

Please kindly check whether the little screw is come from the hammer rod,if it's yes,please fasten it on the hammer rod,then the top tup can reach the height to make enough hit energy.

Thanks and Best regards,

Susan
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ok...... but ... now ..... I have already resolved the problem, I must try if it works great

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Old 09-05-2008, 06:07 AM
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The hammer work, but three days of my life to make up the hammer.....

low quality in my onest opinion
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