Quantcast When should you choose Ox/Ac Welding - Blacksmith Forum
Blacksmith Forum

I Forge Iron

Blacksmith and Metalworking Forum

 

When should you choose Ox/Ac Welding

This is a discussion on When should you choose Ox/Ac Welding within the Welding/Fab General Discussion forums, part of the Welding / Fabrication category; What are the best reasons to choose the Oxygen/Acetylene (gas) type of welding over other types. What are the minimum ...


Go Back   Blacksmith Forum > Welding / Fabrication > Welding/Fab General Discussion

Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Notices

Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-14-2007, 02:32 AM
Glenn's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: IForgeIron at Big Chimney
Posts: 5,369
Default When should you choose Ox/Ac Welding

What are the best reasons to choose the Oxygen/Acetylene (gas) type of welding over other types.

What are the minimum and maximum thickness arc Oxygen/Acetylene type of welding can handle? Any advice on the process?
__________________
Tools do not make the blacksmith, the blacksmith makes the tools. gc
If someone questions your standards, they are not high enough.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-14-2007, 07:38 AM
tbrforge's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Athens Georgia
Posts: 145
Default

One thing for sure, TIG welded aluminum is a more brittle weld, if the joint must be formed after welding, I use oxy/Acetyl
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-14-2007, 07:28 PM
Hillbillysmith's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NW, Ohio
Posts: 316
Default

You would choose oxy/acetylene welding because it may be the only thing that you have. But now adays, it isn't used very much. But can be used on pretty much any thickness as long as you know how to do the process properly.
__________________
The mind is nothing without the body and the body is nothing without the mind. You need them both to make the rational decisions we so make every day. Some we don't put as much thought into them as we should, and others we take a little too seriously. So slow down, take a breather, and think.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-14-2007, 08:07 PM
Glenn's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: IForgeIron at Big Chimney
Posts: 5,369
Default

There have been times when rusted areas were removed from quarter panels in a vehicle and ox/ac was used to weld the new material back into place. That was full penetration mostly verticle welding with a flat bead. It is fair to say ox/ac welding of thin tim has been replaces by mig welding (wire welding). I have also seen ox/ac used to weld 1/4 inch thick materials.

Ox/ac can easily be used for cutting steel, heat treating and tempering materials, spot heating, short heating, and is a versatile system, able to do many jobs.
__________________
Tools do not make the blacksmith, the blacksmith makes the tools. gc
If someone questions your standards, they are not high enough.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-14-2007, 08:17 PM
Mlmartin15's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Charlston SC
Posts: 201
Default

ive herd that you can weld aluminum with OA but have never seen it, ill have to try it, any tips, ive brazed and welded thin stuff like 3/32 but thats it
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-14-2007, 08:37 PM
eburgblue's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Yakima, Wa.
Posts: 48
Default

I have OA welded alu sprinkler pipes many times. Not too difficult. I always used the prefluxed filler.
__________________
**************************************************
We all know what it is but it's hard to write a law around it.
Hate speech is all those nasty, vicious things they say about us.
Free speech is all those nasty, vicious things we say about them.
**************************************************
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-15-2007, 11:20 PM
JerryCarroll's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Momence, IL
Posts: 236
Default OA welding

I worked at a Ford stamping plant for 35 years--much as a salvage repairman--metal finisher. OA--tig--mig--arc. In my smitty I would be lost a lot of times without my torch.
__________________
Man's opinion is no substitute for the Word of GOD.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 12-18-2007, 04:47 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin
Posts: 14
Default

Are the portable kits worth considering? Or are the tanks too small?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-18-2007, 05:28 PM
Phil Patrick's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: middletown ohio
Posts: 154
Default

The thing to consider when you for an oxy/ac rig is where you will source your bottles. The small rigs(portable) are fine if you use it not so often. If you use your torch alot, welding, cutting bending whatever you are going to use alot more gas.
Now, some weld shop suppliers won't fill tanks, some will. The ones that do, make sure they fill them on site, rather than sending them out to be filled. If you are like me, I don't have time to wait on that.
What a lot of suppliers do is lease you the tanks. They (the supplier)own the tanks, so if there is a problem with one, it is their problem, not yours. Also, tanks have to be pressure tested every so many years. If you own the tank, you are responsible for seeing to this. A supplier will not fill a tank unless it is certified for pressure test. So, in a lease situation, when you run out of gas, you take them back to the supplier, and exchange them. You then pay just the cost of the gas. (My last bill for both oxy and ac was 35$. I have medium sized tanks)
My lease is for 99 years for both tanks. It cost me ,with the first gas fill, about 450$. I'm sure you can go down a size and go a little cheaper.
The other option that has opened up is through my local farm supply TSC. They do an exchange program, like propane.In short, like a lease. They also supply shielding gas as well. As for the pricing,, not sure.

Medium sized tanks last me a good while, and I use my torch on a fairly regular basis. And they really won't take up that much more space. I do a lot of welding with my set up.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 12-18-2007, 06:54 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond, Va
Posts: 83
Default oxy/act usage

remember that a properly adjusted torch set will use twice as much oxygen as acetylene so figure that in your bottle size/cost comparisons. especially when using a rosebud for heating.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0