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This is a discussion on Welding Copper within the Welding/Fab General Discussion forums, part of the Welding / Fabrication category; Anyone here ever welded copper?? Did you use a special copper filler wire/rod? I also know you can use a ...
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It's tig welded often for extending buss bars in large electrical applications. In Thailand when I was in the SeaBees, we ran out of bronzing rod and I used stripped copper electric wire with brazing flux as a substitute till we finally got some.
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The Nobility of Common Metals 1. Aluminum 2. Zinc 3. Steel 4. Iron 5. Stainless Steel - Active 6. Tin 7. Lead 8. Copper 9. Stainless Steel - Passive When dissimilar metals are in contact with one another in the presence of an electrolyte, galvanic action occurs, resulting in the deterioration of the metal with the lower galvanic number. The electrolyte may be rain water running from one surface to another, or moisture from the air containing enough acid to cause it to act as an electrolyte. The company I work for made some large copper sailboats one time that had stainless rods welded to them representing the ropes running down each mass. After a while the galvanic reaction caused the stainless rods to start falling off, I had to replace the stainless rods with copper rods. The rods were attached to the copper with phos- copper brazing rods. |
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By SS, did you mean Silver Solder or Stainless Steel? Copper can be silver soldered to join pieces, and the silver solder can also be used as an inlay to provide decoration on other materials also. |
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I used to weld 316L S/S strips, 2"x 1/8", to 11ga. 4'x8' copper sheets. Used "dioxide copper" bare wire with BayState 13 flux using the TIG process. There were 20 sheets of this to line an alcohol reactor. The stainless strips were then welded to the inside wall and the long seams were welded. (We made 200proof ethal alcohol). This and 99.997% pure silver was used to protect the inside of the reactor walls. The reactor was 7" thick. The acid used in this process was so hot that it would attack every metal except the copper and silver. (all the S/S was covered with copper). If you are welding thick, 1/4" and up, it will save you a lot of heartache by using 100% Helium as you purge gas. Doing so you will be able to cut your welding amperage to less than 1/2 when using argon. BTW, we never had the stainless turn loose from the copper. The grade of copper and stainles may attribute to this. This process, alcohol, was run at 1250psi with 750*F, this was the reason the acid would attach so vicious. (at least that is what the engineers told me)
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Last night I tried welding copper with TIG. I did not use any flux. Would brazing flux help? The project was the one on Ron Reil's www pages: Gallery Making Copper Wire Bracelets The process was not very controllable, and I was successful only by striking an arc, then immediately stopping as soon as I saw a shimmer. The welds ended up looking pretty clean, but the copper dripping off got oxidized pretty badly. Does one commonly use a paste flux? My welding books don't seem to cover copper. Only steel, stainless, aluminum and titanium. No flux. |
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I've TIG'ed copper several times. It welds nice. It fuses well with no filler, if you need filler a strip of the base material or a piece of copper wire works well. I wouldn't think brazing flux would help, probably just make lots of nasty smoke. The argon shield should be all you need. |
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james gonzalez posted a picture of a nifty copper garden vessel that he made as a first raising project in the coppersmithing section here just a few days ago, said it had involved some welding. I queried asking him how he had welded it, and he replied: with his Lincoln 300 TIG. Perhaps james could amplify.
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