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Old 12-17-2007, 08:40 PM
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I have some old brass pipe that I pulled from my house I've never really worked with brass so I heated a piece and let it sit for a day.The next day I split a piece and played around with it cold and with some slight heat,and it was just shattering.Is this stuff worthless,should I just scrap it?
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:50 PM
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I've never done any brass or copper work but I know copper for sure work hardens and needs to be annealed after a while. Maybe it needed to be annealed? I think it is opposite to iron and needs to be quenched and not just slowly cooled but I may be mistaken.
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Old 12-18-2007, 03:28 AM
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what i know is play with it and is work hardened so heat and quinch - get rid of it and tomorrow you will need it- that is the way my luck goes
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Old 12-18-2007, 08:49 AM
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to anneal any copper based alloy, and silver, heat to red and then quench in water.
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:53 PM
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I've worked with some brass, the bowl pictured in my avatar is brass actually, and you have to heat to red, let cool to pink and then quench, and re-anneal A LOT! It's much more brittle than copper. But depending on the size of the pipe, could be cut into sections and made into nice bracelets or small vases. Have fun
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:30 PM
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thanks everyone i made a sweet chillie pepper today out of copper and i want to use brass for the leaf on top so im gonna try that tomorrow.
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:10 AM
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if you were pounding it for a while you needed to anneal it and quench it.....after you do that it gets workable again......but it will harden as you bang
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:17 AM
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needing some patterns and tips on making a fish gig,heard of using leaf springs,thats a little heavy,want some thing lighter,prefer round tines,something that will stand up to using around rocks.Thanks Riverman
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:32 AM
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Most of the old ones around here used round stock for the tines and they were held together with a wedge. You have probably seen that kind but if needed I can post a pic. Have one hanging on the front of the shop . Have a friend in MO who collects them and as I recall most of his were made the same way. Garage door spring would be good stock to use.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:07 PM
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note that old brass water pipe can have the zinc leached out of it making it more brittle as well.
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