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how to you turn carbon steel red?

This is a discussion on how to you turn carbon steel red? within the Alchemy and Formulas forums, part of the Blacksmithing category; im working on a bloody thrusting knife, and i want to give some parts of it a reddish look. any ...


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Old 08-10-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default how to you turn carbon steel red?

im working on a bloody thrusting knife, and i want to give some parts of it a reddish look. any one know a good way to make the steel look red?
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Sometimes if my Propane forge is running out of plumb (too rich, too lean?), my stuff comes out of the heat pre-rusted, it's a bear to get it wire wheeled off.
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:13 AM
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Yes, Red paint! But I suspect thats not the answer you wanted to hear. The only things I can suggest are rust,a product called japanese brown,, which gives a sort of burgandy look to steel if done right. Or something along the lines of copper plating, followed by a patina.
I know that some knifemakers are getting vivid reds from hot dip blueing thier knives, but I have no Idea how.
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Been reading alot of Eragon lately?
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Leaf the red is rust..depending on where you live it may happen really fast on its own or if you live in a dry area you can speed the process with agents. Salt water will speed rust. as will bleach, So will acids such as muriatic for pools. Basically if you have some pieces of scrap that are the same steel and have been heat treated the same. remove all oil from the piece. Wet them and let dry. Rub with fine steel wool and water and see if it what you want. I would suggest salt and water as you will likely have some and it is not hard on tissues like lungs and skin. You may have to repeat the process a lot of times to make it reddish brown. It is a cool almost antique look when done right. But not what I would call bright red. Have fun
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:42 AM
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If you burnish your knife with a piece of copper (or a copper brush, if there is such a thing) it will impart a tint to it. Obviously the finer the polish, the less tint you get. And it might also be a bit close to pink for your purposes!
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thanks! i shall give a try to all the ideas leasted above and report back lately =]
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:00 PM
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reporting back:
i've tried all except the paint and copper plating.
rust changed the color pretty good, tho it's not really the color i wanted. copper burnish worked too, and it made my scrap shine with a tint of copper red. but i think the greatest success is in tempering, or "blueing". the steel turned into shades of bright purple-ish red just before turning blue.
i shall have some pictures up eventurally, right now i couldn't get my camera to capture the shininess of it... =\
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for chestnut colour ( bear with me, I'll write it out in the original text from a book I have printed in Spanish and I'll try to translate the best I can)
Castaño- Se sumerge el objecto en azufrefundido mexclado con negro de humo, o en algún liquido que contenga flor de azufre mexclado con negro de humo. Se escurre y se seca el objecto, que se queda bronceado a prueba de ácidos, y que puede bruñirse, tomandoel aspecto de bronce oxidado, a causa, probablemente, de la formación de una especia de pirita caracterizada por sus hermosas reflejos metálicos y por su resistencia a los agentes químicos.
chestnut- submerge the object in molten sulfur mixed with "a class of ink made from tar ( talk to someone who does printing they might be able to help)", or some type of liquid which contains "oxidized sulfur?" mixed with "black from smoke". Drian and dry the object, that stays a bronze colourthat is acid proof and can be burnished, taking an aspect of old bronze caused, probably by a type of pyrite characterized for the lovely metalic reflectiones and chemical resistance.
I've never tried this, but if you do make sure you are in a well ventillated area and you take a close look at what are the dangers of working with these chemicals. Maybe somebody can corrct this translation if it is in anyway incorrect.
Saludos Thomas.
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