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I have been trying to find out how I can tell the age of various axes by the way they were made. For example, I read that the Bessimer process was invented around 1855 and by about 1870 the process had been perfected, thus making it cheap enough to make axes of all steel. So my assumption then was that if the axe has "steeled" edges then it must be pre-1870. But then I ran into some problems. Apparently manufacturers were making iron axes with steeled edges up until about 1930! Okay, so now I am really confused. Why would some of the largest axe manufacturers like Collins Axe Co. and others still use steeled forged axes when it was apparently cheaper & easier to just drop forge it entirely of cast steel? It is the timeline here that I'm missing. Are there any conclusions I can draw concerning the date of manufacture of an axe by looking at the way it was manufactured? If it was drop forged can I say it was at least this x date or after? Yes, I know how to tell whether the axes have been steeled and no, I don't want to spark test any antiques axes. I realize these are general conclusions I am looking for and not absolutes. Thanks a lot, Woodforge |
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I think you're forgetting a couple factors that affect how quickly new technologies are taken up, namely Machine upgrade costs, transportation costs/availability, and sheer stubbornness to new technologies shown by people not wanting to take a risk. Even if it was cheaper, they would have had to look at how much they would save and how quickly the new machine would pay for itself versus the cost of replacing their old equipment and how old the equipment was. If they were ready to replace the machine, they also had to factor in the availability of steel versus iron depending on where the factories were. The cost of transportation of things can really impact what materials and methods you use. Of course, as many of us can attest to, there is the general feeling that my way is better and I'm not going to take the risk on a completely new technology until my neighbor has thoroughly tested it first. On the methods to determine the difference, I'm not too sure how to do it without spark testing or possibly polishing a spot clean of rust where it won't be noticable and acid testing it. As for the time line, you'd have to check individual manufacturers and see when they changed them. Last edited by easilyconfused; 01-21-2008 at 12:49 AM. Reason: thought of something to add |
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| The Davistown Museum Handtools in History Series Volume 6: Steel and Tool Making Strategies and Techniques before 1870 Volume 7: Art of the Edge Tool Volume 11: Handbook for Ironmongers A Glossary of Ferrous Metallurgy Terms 18th and 19th Century Toolmaker Information Files Collins & Co. Quote:
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__________________ Will forge for food crash & smash, bash & mash, crush & bust & burn Last edited by Ice Czar; 01-21-2008 at 02:56 AM. |