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Steam Hammer- Steam,Oil Mix Problem

This is a discussion on Steam Hammer- Steam,Oil Mix Problem within the Problem Solving forums, part of the Blacksmithing category; Thanks for posting the picture! Hammer Envy is the next step along the progression from Anvil Envy to utter madness!...


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Old 06-10-2008, 11:12 AM
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Thanks for posting the picture! Hammer Envy is the next step along the progression from Anvil Envy to utter madness!
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:47 PM
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I would be looking at a way of either re-introducing the condensed steam back to the boiler, or using a heat exchanger to pre-heat your boiler feed water with the 'contaminated' steam exhaust.

If you do go the second route it will be much easier to seperate the contaminents from the condensate when it is back to ambient temperature.

This would save your company lots of $$$$ over a year, as well as doing your bit for the environment
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:22 PM
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I lightened up the photo so more detail of the hammer can be seen...
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Dude... plenty of room for tooling under those dies;-) I want a steam hammer big enough to forge anvils on;-) Fun little toy. I love steam hammers
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Rambo, I do not know the Laws of India. If your Engineering Dept can advise what the standard for amount of oil allowed in the water to be legally discharged, and how it is to be discharged IE sewer, or into a river perhaps I can offer a little help. I have been doing this sort of thing for a while
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Thank you Rambo!
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hey guys, sry for the late response, but i had a few family celebrations.

Apprenticeman, ure more than welcome. i really appreciate all the help im getting here. i do have a few other things i wanted advice on, will be posting them seperately.

Ptree, i will get back to you about the laws. advice is always good from people whi have experience.
fionnbharr, i am not sure what tooling you have in mind which can be used here.

ironrosefarm, thanks a lot. my pic was a bit dark and tooo huge but i dotn really use photoshop or anything so i couldnt do anything bout it. appreciate it a lot.

john, we do actually use the steam to preheat the water for our boiler to conserve fuel and save money. however the sheer amount of steam being put out needs to be let out somewhere, hence the entire mixing problem.Also, we dotn use contaminated steam as it would mess up the boiler pretty bad. we wanna try and condense it as much as possible to reduce environmental impact and also try and save the water table. if we can condense it all back then the water being pumped out will be reduced to a minimum instead of the whole amount every single day.

thomas, no prob. my pleasure. lol, hammer envy CAN drive people mad i suppose. however, im still a trainee in the business so i suppose i am safe for now. :P

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I'm hoping this picture of the steam hammer is a little easier to see.

Didn't realize someone had already posted a lightened picture...
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The longer stroke of a steam hammer gives pleanty on room for tooling for ring forging (becking saddles etc) compared to the shorter stroke of a 'self contained' type hammer.

If the environmental impact of running live steam is to much it may be worth doing a cost benefit analysis of converting to compressed air.

You can save additional money on a 'live' steam setup by futher pre-heating the boiler feed water using a secondary boiler flue gas economiser (heat exchanger), there are some critical design considerations with these, but they are becoming increasingly popular as energy costs increase.
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Rambo, I do not know the rules for emmisions for India. I feel certain that if you search for a supplier of steam specialities such as whistles, trap and valves you will find a silencer.
Don't forget that the recovered water will be too oily for use as feedwater for the boiler.
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