Need help forging a socket

[ddan7]

I having a little trouble forging a socket (I was trying to make a hoe out of a lawnmower blade) I can fuller a fan shape but I'm looking for tips or the proper hardy tool to create the socket. What tool is typically used for this? I'm guessing the horn, but I need a much smaller cone than the horn. Help Please...

[irnsrgn]

hand made hoe sockets were traditionally wrapped around and forge welded back to itself and then the body was fullered down to form a neck and then twisted 90 to the socket and finally the blade was forged to shape, and the eye was rounded with a taper to it for holding the handle

[John B]

With respect to irnsrgn, draw the blade out before putting in the 90 degree bend, access to forge it out will be easier

[Ratel10mm]

Originally Posted by ddan7

I having a little trouble forging a socket (I was trying to make a hoe out of a lawnmower blade) I can fuller a fan shape but I'm looking for tips or the proper hardy tool to create the socket. What tool is typically used for this? I'm guessing the horn, but I need a much smaller cone than the horn. Help Please...

You need some cone madrils or hardie tools. They look like the sound, a thin tapering cone that you form the socket around to give you the taper that you are looking for.

[steve sells]

If you done have, can't borrow or steal the mandrel , then use a chunk of round stock sized close as you have to the same diameter of the handle you plan to use to hold the hole open as you weld. It doesn't need to be anything special unless you need to re-use it over and over again, even mild steel pipe can work to make a few.

[irnsrgn]

90 degree bend John????

[jayco]

I'm confused. Are you guys talking about old fashioned grubbing/sprouting type hoes or the more modern(I think) 'goose neck' hoe, also called a garden hoe?

[John B]

Garden Hoes confusion reigns the 90 degree bit turns the blade from in line to as it says, 90 degrees, I know this as a Dutch hoe, probably the same thing as a gooseneck hoe, I think I interpreted twist as bend, as I could not visualise why a twist would be needed.

I think part of the confusion is that because smith's made tools for individuals' requirements, there are many interpretations and names for them,

Then again there are wide blades hoes and narrow blade hoes each being used for a specific application

Its getting to sound like Santas coming

Hoe Hoe Hoe

Wish I had telepathy, what you say(Write) is not always perceived as what you mean.

Sorry for any confusion

[ThomasPowers]

I start by making the "fan" and then starting the bend into a bottom swage and then work it over a bic in my hardy hole.

Old bull pins and structural steel wrenches have smaller than anvil horn tapered ends used to align bolt holes on structural steel that make nice bic if you can find then cheap in a pawnshop, junkstore or fleamarket.

[yesteryearforge]

Forge a bick like you want it and then make the socket

Mike Tanner