Leakey Blower

[Ron Hicks]

I have a Canedy Otto Royal Blower that leaks oil.
Could I take it apart and use some gasket sealer on it.
I would hate to mess it up - been told that the gears are made of paper.
Anyone ever work on one?
I would like to clean the old thing up and paint.
Thanks Ron

[habu68]

most Old tools, like blowers never did have seals. leaking was a sign that they were getting a proper lube job. You filled it up daily untill it leaked and wipped the surface with the excess to keep it clean and to stall rusting. Trying to "fix" a leaking blower is like trying to teach a pig to dance, you will just get dirty and agravate the pig.

[mcraigl]

Ron,
Where's it leaking? Bolt holes on the case? Shaft holes? Split in the case? I took mine appart and cleaned it up last fall/summer and I wouldn't say the gears are made of paper. I bought a package of o-rings that fit in the groove around the case. It still leaks around the lowest bolt hole a little bit, but not enought to be annoying, and if it does start to annoy me, I'm sure a rubber washer would fix it right up. I had to buy a package of 10 of the o-rings, and I'd be happy to mail you one if you want it and it's leaking around the case. Mine had the original packing material in there that resembled valve packing for an old faucet that had dried up and cracked. Let me know.

[ApprenticeMan]

See, if you want to not get the oil spill under neath the blower, just put a little catch cup under the leak spot/spots. If no dust or ash or clinker gets in it you can pour it right back into the oil thing and bam, recycle a little.

[Nick]

My main forge has a Cannedy Otto blower. When I got it I could barely turn the crank, I opened up the gearbox and found that the previous owner had packed it with grease. I cleaned it all out, and chipped out the dried rubber seal that had petrified in the groove. I then reassembled it with a liquid gasket. It now works like a charm. It doesn't spin quite as easily as some blowers I've used, but it's powerful and really moves the air if I want it to.

I'm not sure if we have the same model (there's some pics of my forge in my member gallery), but the gears in my blower are pretty substantial, definitly not "paper."

[Woody]

I have a Canady Otto blower also. I took it apart several years ago and cleaned all the parts. The gears are not paper. I used a leather shoe lace to replace the gasket between the two halves of the housing. I also used a heavier grade of oil when I refilled it. I think I put in 90 weight gear oil. It has worked fine since, but it's a little hard to crank when it's really cold. Since I only use it for demos in the summer this does not present much of a problem.

Woody

[the_sandy_creek_forge]

paper gears?!
I've never heard of paper gears, but I did hear one time about bomb shelter ventilation blowers that used some kind of pressed fiber gears (i know, paper is pressed fibers, but these were different i think?). IIRC these were WWII type items and were not meant for any extended or rugged use. I am not sure who made them.

And as everyone else said, Let it leak, that way you know that the oil is getting to everything.
-Aaron @ the SCF

[Ron Hicks]

A local man that deals in lots of old blacksmithing equipment years ago told me that the " run silent" was a selling point for their blowers.
Maybe its pressed fiber gears - he did though show me some gears he claimed were out of a blower that had gotten water in it.They looked like pressed paper that delamated .
It gets real grungey - it is kepted in a shed out of the weather.
I really dont think they were made to leak when new ?Why would they had packing in them?

My thinking is if Im not on my toes dumping oil in it & werck the worn gears.

My Champion blower doesnt leak oil

Kind of hard to tell where the leaks are need to clean it up first- for sure around the crank & think the case but not sure. The over flow plug on the side must be wrong size very lose and leaks while cranking.
It works like a champ moves lots of air
This is the blower not sure the modle ?

Edit:
I seen the paper gears maybe he was havin fun with me
I found this - far as I know its the same blower
the add says Phosper Brozen & Steel Gears


Wish I had an original Crank
Ron

[mcraigl]

Ron,
After looking at your picture I can tell you one problem you have right now. The gear housing is not correctly mated to the fan housing. The input shaft should not be at the bottom of the oil sump. It needs to be rotated 1/3 turn clockwise. That gets the input shaft above the oil level. The gears get lubricated by splash action. When I re-did mine, I was having issues with the oil coming out of all the shafts. I, like whoever last reassembled yours tried to align it so the lettering was upright. Mike-hr told me he didn't think it was right, then on further inspection we found a small lubrication port where the input shaft goes into the housing and it was pointed at about 7 o-clock (which I'm guessing yours is to?). Anyway, once I turned it 1/3 clockwise the leakiness went way down. It's still leaking a very small amount at the lowest bolt hole that joins the two half's, but it's minimal. Is there also a plug at 6 o-clock in addition to the one we see in the pic? Mine had two, so there's now one at the top, and one at about 7 or 8 o-clock that has a little petcock still in it. I open the petcock and dump non-detergent 30w in the top until it starts to come out of the petcock and that's where I leave it. I must say I'm still pretty much in love with my blower. It's a good one, and I think the Royal Cheif is pretty much the cadillac of the bunch.

[Ron Hicks]

mcraigl
I think you hit it on the button
Looking at the old add you can see the crank is at the left side not down on the bottom.
I did not see a small lubrication port where the input shaft goes into the housing but I bet its there.
I took the crank off and tried to wipe some of the gunk off to get a better picture.
Whats it like taking it apart and reassembly tough to line up the gears?
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Thanks you save me loads of problems
Ron