Gas Burner questions.

[rcs7]

I'm trying to adjust a burner I'm building and was wanting to know if a green-blue cone is ok? The outer flame is blue with little to no orange in it. I'm not sure if you guy tell by the pitcure attached.

Russell

[welder19]

Go to Ron Reil's site, he has some good burner info and he has a picture of a burner running rich, lean, and ideal and it shows the colors of the cones.
Too tired/lazy to find it and put up a link but a search of hi name should bring it right up, or there is a link on ABANA's web site to Ron's, it's a little tough to navigate on his site but it is packed full of good burner info,

welder19

[Grundsau]

Hi Russell, is that burner from Jay Hayes?
Looks just like the three burners I'm working on.
The flame looks good.
Here's a link to the Reil photo and it came from this page.
Allen

[rcs7]

Yep, it's from Jay. I thought I would keep trying to change the color of the cone before I get it set in the forge. I need to get the lining in the forge and decide what i'm going do for the doors then I'm ready to go. I've been using oxy/acet set up to heat things up with. I also want to a coal set up going too but one thing at time.

[Grundsau]

I picked up one of his 3 burner oval forge kits aways back.
Just put the double lining in this afternoon and fired all three burners for a short amount of time. Did it take much to tune yours?

At 10psi it starts to roar and idles nice around 3psi.
Am planning to add the ITC coating next week.
If only I could find some john deere green high temp paint it'd look great.

My dad and I built a coal forge out of stone in 1997 and have been wanting to use gas for awhile now. It should be great for doing multiples of the same item and for long pieces.
Am going to save the coal for big stuff and forge welding.
If I were going to build one again, I'd make it all out of metal. That way it could be moved if the need ever arises.
Allen

[rcs7]

Not really, though I do plan to tweak it a little more if I can. I want a steel coal forge if possible, but it's probably going to be a little while before I get to it. I'll be working on the liner during the week next week.

Russell

[Grundsau]

Hi Russell, how did you make out with the burners and liner?

I got the ITC-100 applied about seven days ago and used the forge for a few hours today. Ran it at 5psi and need to experiment a bit more. I'm used to working at a bright orange-yellow heat and 5psi was giving me a medium-orange heat.

Gas is nice and allows me to be productive by having more steel in the "fire" without fear of burning it up among other things. Then I can work like an assembly line when doing a run of the same item.
It does have a bit of "dragon's breath" when two or three burners are firing. I tried setting it on top of the coal forge with an end pointed at the side-draft chimney and it created its own draft which helped vent a good portion of the hot gases.
Allen

[SLOB]

I had it easy when I tuned my burners....Jay actually did the fine tuning. we kept adjusting in the choke until it would burn smooth at less than a half of a psi. (guage barely moves off the stop)

my choke plate is really close to being closed.....when adjusting it in you might need to adjust the burner jet back out some as it is moving along with the choke plate.

do you have the idle circuit plumbed into your forge?I have some dragons breath from my forge....but not to bad.....but mine is only a single burner forge though.

[rcs7]

I haven't really had time to try adjusting more. I did get the forge lined and ITC coating appliled this weekend. I'm hoping to do a little more trial and error on the burner before I try to cure the ITC. Do you guys have any close up pics of your burners? I wanted to see how close the chokes were. I have mine set-up like his instructions at the moment.

[SLOB]

not specifically a closeup of the burner but you can see it in this picture. if you go to the gallery and click on it there is a larger image